Thread: Some Warrior Q's

Yes storms eye increases your damage, no you don't have to use it as your first rotation in an opener, but do make sure it is your second, if you have a nin they normaly open with Dancing edge anyways but keep up storms eye and hopefully your NIN isn't an idiot and realises what you're doing and stops using dancing edge. just remember SE BB or SE SP once you have enough threat.

Combine your cooldowns with inner beast, it's the most effective way of using them, don't use vengence and thrill for tank busters use IB and Veng or IB and thrill unless of cause we are talking extreamly hard hitting tank crunchs that come around every 2 minutes or so (hypercompressed laser in floor 1 savage) then you can effectivly use IB thrill and Veng and you'll be sweet till it comes around again and in which case same deal.
main point pair cooldowns with innerbeast not with eachother.

as for gamepad layouts can't help you

1) Priorize keeping aggro if you are tanking, if you are DPSing then you might want to have Storm's eye up ASAP. It increases your own DPS as well (seeing as Great Axes are slashing damage)

2) Warriors don't have a lot of cooldowns to begin with, that's normal, will feel especially true if you played paladin effectively before. Warrior damage from DPSing also greatly comes from stacked cooldowns in my own experience (someone can correct me on this). As a warrior you are going to want to pop some cooldowns on tank busters but it "probably" won't feel as effective as say a paladin mitigating tank busters.

3) Control scheme is 100% personal. There is absolutely no "optimal" ways to go on about this. The most "optimal" way to have your controls set up is to get used to something that works for you.

I haven't played warrior optimally, but from personal experience (coming from paladin) I feel I must trust my healers a lot more. I guess warrior's main responsibility is just to "soak" the tank buster by having an proper cooldown up to mitigate the buster by that much, but by no means is it going to save you everytime. At least, that is how I feel it.

As for the controls, I guess I can suggest enabling the extra hotbars you get from using Left & Right trigger simultaneously. When I discovered this, I was able to sort my abilities in such a way that I didn't need to toggle and then accidentally use an ability I didn't mean to, due to the fact I was still on the wrong bar and didn't notice.

the biggest problem you will ever encounter if knowing weather or not said attacks and tank busters are magical or physical, if they are indeed physical everything is sweet but if they are magical then 2 of your cooldowns do become useless ( foresight and raw intuition) but hey atleast you don't get shafted as hard as pally on that front.
as to high damage non tank buster attacks innerbeast alone is normaly fine perhaps with one of your smaller less DR based cooldowns just incase you feel abit unsafe.
remember it's ok to fuck up and use too many cooldowns, wipe and retry as long as you learn from it and thats realy the be all end all is just learning what you can and can not get away with.

Originally Posted by Sareal

I haven't played warrior optimally, but from personal experience (coming from paladin) I feel I must trust my healers a lot more. I guess warrior's main responsibility is just to "soak" the tank buster by having an proper cooldown up to mitigate the buster by that much, but by no means is it going to save you everytime. At least, that is how I feel it.

once you really understand warrior its quite the contrary tbh. Your cds are on shorter timers so if your healers mess up you can usually afford to burn extra depending on phasing, at the expense of pushing dps stance. on pld you really cant mix things up. You have one single penultimate rotation with no intuition, improvisation or alternative strategies. Just follow the routine, rinse and repeat.

Originally Posted by Sareal

As a warrior you are going to want to pop some cooldowns on tank busters but it "probably" won't feel as effective as say a paladin mitigating tank busters.

Agreed. WAR HP tend to yoyo a lot more than PLD HP simply due to the nature of their tank stance (and you'll notice even more hp gain/loss on top of that if the WAR is stance dancing because their HP pool itself shrinks and grows). As a healer it can be a little alarming at first (seriously you think they're gonna die), but you get used to it. The self-healing is absolutely nuts, though. I've critted myself for nearly 14k with Equilibrium, 5k with Second Wind, and Bloodbath actually helps quite a bit on AoE pulls.

Good WARs are an absolute joy to heal. They use their cooldowns effectively and use their self-healing in such a way that it extends the healer's DPS windows dramatically. Bad WARs are about the squishiest thing with a blue icon and require constant babysitting.

Originally Posted by Izsha

IB+foresight (weakest CD we have)=26.4% damage reduction (to physical) on top of defiance. Better than pld in Sh.Oath with rampart (20%. The stances cancel out) but only for physical.

You'd be better off saying IB + Foresight = Rampart + Foresight. Don't forget that Paladins can cross-class Foresight.

So really you're just reiterating that IB = Rampart, albeit only for 6 seconds at a time and requiring a GCD. :3