Thread: 3.2 PvP: Feast Game Mode Discussion Thread.

Originally Posted by Februs

I'm not sure that there's an answer to that question, because it's inevitable that something becomes Best in Slot. Even in PvE content, which has far greater gear variety than PvP, eventually one specific combination of gear becomes the end of the line. FFXIV is simply designed that way. There's no real gear customization outside of glamours, because there's no variance in how a jobs are supposed to be played. A Tank is a tank, for example, and all tanks need the same stats; therefore, they all end up using the same gear. PvP is no different.

BiS isn't a problem. Its the size of the gaps between BiS gearing, average gearing and entry gearing is where the problems lie. My question was basically "what advantages should a character wearing PvP BiS have over those not in PvP BiS and how big should this advantage be?"

That said, I don't think that this will be nearly as big of a problem as it was back in the original Wolves Den or Frontlines game modes, because there is no longer any restrictions on who can buy PvP gear. Even if PvP gear provides an advantage in PvP that makes it BiS for that game mode, it really isn't offering anyone an unfair advantage because anyone can pick up a set without worrying about rank restrictions. New players to PvP might have to deal with some growing pains while they come up with the Wolf Marks to actually buy a set of PvP armour, but given how quickly you can get Wolf Marks, it shouldn't take too long for them to catch up.

Gear rank restrictions were not the problem. It was gearing disparity between fresh level 50 characters joining level 50 PvP for the first time and those that had fully geared themselves.

The original implementation of Morale created an incredible gear gap between those in i70 PvP gear and those in i50 entry gear. The incredible damage and defense boost granted by Morale made facing an i70 PvPer a near-impossible challenge for anyone but those fully geared in i90.

It currently takes between 65 (winning all) and 130 (losing all) Feast matches in order to buy a full set of the i180 gear. A set of i205 gear requires 191 wins or 381 losses to buy.

In the end, as much as the removal of Rank Restrictions on PvP gear was a kick in the nuts to any players who actually put that effort in, it really would work out to be a favourable change should Morale be re-implemented because it would help level the playing field.

Not really. If Morale was returned to its original form and ilevelsync did not nullify it, it would still create an incredible gap between the PvP gear haves and have nots as the offense and defense boosts would easily overwhelm skill.