Thread: 3.2 PvP: Feast Game Mode Discussion Thread.

Well, instead of Morale giving you a competitive advantage, maybe have it increase the rewards you receive instead?

For example, have each point of morale increase the rewards received in PVP by 1%. So if you would normally receive 20 Esoterics, 10 Lore and 300 Wolf Marks, someone with 100 morale would get 40 Eso, 20 Lore and 600 Wolf Marks.

imo morale shouldnt be a stat but if you wanna keep it as a stat then dont make it affect competetive gameplay. At the moment its best to mix pve and pvp gear for pvp. If morale would affect something like rewards; people would wear the slightly worse pvp gear just to get more tomestones. Same goes for most things if they would be affected by morale.

But i wouldnt get completely rid of Morale. Someone mentioned it before but i think a pvp relic would be really nice and could use the morale .
The idea is the following:

There are 3 parts of the pvp relic a player has to purchase. The raw weapon and 2 metals that decide which substats that weapon will have (5000 wolf marks each = 15k wolf marks in total).
Then the player brings those items to gerolt (or maybe a new blacksmith npc at the wolves den pier? ) and forges his base relic .

Once said player has that he has to play pvp games with his relic. The base relic has a empty stat called Morale (0 /200). Seeing Morale is the spirit of the team, said player gets rewarded with Morale after winning a game. +4 Morale for a Win. +2 Morale for a Loss. That would mean said player needs 50 wins or 200 losses to charge his weapon with all the Morale needed. Also maybe make players get more Morale when they play as a full team (team 4v4) as playing with friends boosts your Morale. So instead of +4 for a win you will get +5 for a win.

(/Lore; The Morale stat is not attached to the weapon . Its attached to the player obviously. So he has to connect his body with the weapon to truly release its power.)

After the weapon is charged the player visists the blacksmith and has his body attune to the weapon. Here the player is given the choice to name his weapon (sidenote; I just want to name my weapon ;_; SE pls :* ). Also the weapon glows now. The glow covers the weapon and parts of the players hands to show the connection between the weapon and its owner. The glow depends on the role :
-Tanks : blue glow around the whole weapon that makes it look a bit bigger.
-Dps : red (glow) blood drops from the weapon.
-Healer: weapon emits green star sparks.

The Morale stat does not stop counting though. It will still charge Morale with every Win and Loss and players looking at your gear can see your current Morale. That will ensure people feel rewarded for playing PvP.

That system would also open ways for rewards for showing your weapon to the pvp relic NPC with a set amount of Morale. like a minion once the player has 500 morale with his weapon or something like that.

Obviously those weapons are capped on main- and substats for the respective max iLvl of the pvp mode.

Originally Posted by PapaSteel

While I understand that new players shouldn't be at a disadvantage, players who dedicate themselves to pvp - much like pve - would like to see the reeards they get provide incremental improvements to their character.

I do nothing but PVP in this game. I do not want to destroy new players even more by having a morale advantage. They tried it with WD launch, it failed miserably. When I had full Rank 30 PvP gear I'd destroy anyone who had no morale at all. It was a joke, they had no chance no matter how good they were, and it is a bad system.

Have morale be a PvP EXP bonus multiplier, that way people can catch up to rank 50 faster to put them on an even more even playing ground than before with other players. Could also make it a wolf mark multiplier too.

Almost useless for me but at least it would help out the new players.

What comes to morale it should work in 4v4 light party imo as that is the only true competitive mode(it should also be non-synced)but if not then just remove it. Also wanted to add that recent sprint change made Enliven pretty much useless so why not replace it with leap/charge like ability to give some mobility for tanks(melees have some gap closers so maybe give something else for them), that way DRK could have 2 of them making them most mobile tank in PvP.

What if morale increased the limit break? Either increasing the potency/duration or maybe increasing the rate at which the limit break builds in PvP. This would give it a minor effect while not being game breaking for the new players without PvP gear.

Morale should just increase exp/wolf marks in a small % FOR THE ENTIRE PARTY. This way all the party gets the benefit if a single player has them, and makes it so all members would have them equipped as well (the more the better) and doesnt break the competitive game. This also helps new players to level faster on pvp. AND Helps people farm marks.

And just mention it at the end of the fight so everyone is aware:
You earned 300 wolf marks + 40 wolf marks from team morale. (as well as exp.)

Every point of Morale difference between attacker and target gives +1% chance of status resistance. This check happens separately after all hit checks and damage. Examples:

1) Attacker has 10 Morale. Target has 10 Morale. Attacker casts Sleep, hit rate = 100%.

2) Attacker has 5 Morale. Target has 10 Morale. Attacker casts Sleep, hit rate = 95%.

3) Attacker has 12 Morale. Target has 10 Morale. Attacker casts Sleep, hit rate = 100%.

4) Attacker has 5 Morale. Target has 10 Morale. Attacker uses Brutal Swing, the attack hits because Attacker has a high Accuracy; Defender takes damage; however, hit rate of Stun only = 95%.

The amount of Morale on gear would need to be rebalanced to lower the range of possible differences-in-Morales from approaching 100 (i.e. people who have full PVP gear are completely immune to status effects from people who don't).

Alternatively, replace the Morale +X stat with different status resistance stats, perhaps divided by gear slot (e.g. Heavy Resistance on Feet gear only, Stun Resistance on Head gear, etc.). This would also require rebalancing of values, since +40 Sleep Resistance is way too high. Also, please allow the effects of PVP materia ONLY (Cactuar Foot, Aurelia Kiss, etc.) to be active in PVP zones and disallow forbidden melds, just like current raid and lore tomestone gear.

Any Plans on fixing the Eso farming in feast? People intentionally losing in PvP just to farm tomes and it makes the pvp a mess.