Thread: 3.2 PvP: Feast Game Mode Discussion Thread.

Originally Posted by NoelNoel

In all regards it would be better. The SMN burst is basically tri > fester > painflare > ED > deathflare, now that 3 of the skills in the combo have been significantly nerfed, how can you fail to see that restoring the potency and simply having the burst take a few more seconds to fully execute...

The fact that you're making the burst take such a long time defeats the entire point of it being a burst. It's not that people couldn't react to a SMN burst (because realistically, it's actually one of the few that can be counterplayed with a well timed purify), but that it's relatively stronger with it's ease of use and lower effective cooldown.

Originally Posted by NoelNoel

You just assume that as ranged. As melee I purify a 12 sec bind if I see my healer can't help me simply because the next one will only be 6 sec and that SMNs hardly spend their time doing a bind lock.

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Purify on it's own is an incredible cooldown. Unless your opening burst was contingent on getting it in sync with your team, a bind on a dps at worst prevents them from dpsing and would honestly be better off used for keeping your healer alive or removing something like full swing. Compared to sleep where the healer themselves can't do anything about it unless they/you use purify on them.

Originally Posted by Iagainsti

Hence, the "granted" in my original post. I'm not looking to debate, I'm just saying Paladins can and have a 7.5 second burst when the situation unfolds, and no one expects it when it drops you. That poor Monk didn't see it coming.

This plays into it quite a bit as well. Most people would want to burn me at the stake for saying this, but sometimes I actually prefer it when my dps on Pld does not cause interrupts, because it allows me to creep up on someone with dmg.

When one of my attacks interrupts a cast, the caster's knee jerk reaction is to automatically start running away from me so they have the freedom to cast. When my attacks don't cause interrupts, however, the caster often doesn't realize how much chip dmg I'm doing to them until it's too late. I''ve scored a lot of kills (especially on casters) simply because people underestimate how quickly a Pld burst cans stack up. That said, using that burst blows half of their party utility.

Almost any decision a Pld makes is a trade off of some kind. I'd say the hardest part of playing that job in Feast/Fold is making good judgement calls, because every decision a Pld makes can, and often does, have just as many negative consequences as it does positive ones.

Greetings,

During the Japanese PvP stream "Adrenaline Rush TV," Yoshida explained that morale won't take effect inside of the Feast and that the dev. team is having trouble figuring out how they should move forward with the attribute. They also considered removing it entirely. The dev. team is continuing to look into it with thoughts such as making it so morale doesn't directly make players stronger, but does strengthen them in a different matter.

That said, we would like to hear your comments and suggestions regarding morale so the dev. team can use them as reference.

Also, we would like to gather any feedback you may have after trying out the changes made in Patch 3.25, so please be sure to send them in as well!

Originally Posted by Zhexos

Greetings

Thanks! I'm glad to hear that this is something that is being looked into.

Original application of Morale was gating for new players, and I understand why the Devs made it irrelevant. Options I've thought of(possibly broken though)

1) Increases Potency/effects of PVP abilities Only.
2) While not increasing damage, still increasing damage reduction from opponent player damage like original inception(make it left side gear only; drop from weapons)
3) Have a scaling reward system similar to the Jumbo Cactpot ticket sales; set the lowest bonus at the amount of Morale an i180 accessory gives with the max being a full set of i205. the bonuses could be something like; ex. 34 Morale: 5% base HP increase. 134 Morale: Stuns/Sleeps/Binds increased by 1 sec. 200 Morale: PVP cooldowns decreased by 10 seconds. 300 Morale: PVP ability potencies increased by 50. Make the bonuses cumulative.
4) Increase chance of Fenrir drop(ok that's a joke, I'm just out of ideas at the moment xD)


If option 2 were applied, Interrupt HP standard would need to be lowered, say 10%. currently the damage threshold to interrupt casting is reserved for buffed hits, melee combo finishers at the moment, increased defense from morale would make it unattainable.

Also, remove the 10 Lore/20 Eso win or lose, and implement 20 Lore/40 Eso for the winning team to avoid AFK PVP; Win/Loss pvp xp and wolf marks are fine where they are though.

Originally Posted by Zhexos

Greetings,

During the Japanese PvP stream "Adrenalin Rush TV," Yoshida explained that morale won't take effect inside of the Feast and that the dev. team is having trouble figuring out how they should move forward with the attribute. They also considered removing it entirely. The dev. team is continuing to look into it with thoughts such as making it so morale doesn't directly make players stronger, but does strengthen them in a different matter.

That said, we would like to hear your comments and suggestions regarding morale so the dev. team can use them as reference.

Also, we would like to gather any feedback you may have after trying out the changes made in Patch 3.25, so please be sure to send them in as well!

I like that it shows what class everyone is next to their name now..easier target picking for sure.

If morale dont make you stronger, and even materia are inactive during matches, whats the sense of PVP gear? somehow pvp gear should be better for PVP than the PVE gear or playing pvp and making pvp points wont have any incentive...

Just make separate games, one without morale and materia effects and one with Morale and materia effect for those who want to play that way or another... with different rewards for both to incentive playing one and maybe later the other option with morale and materia active.