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  1. #581
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    Mirili's Avatar
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    Ema Voilerclaire
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorielle View Post
    Or you know....I dunno..
    Well, it allows them to use trick attack without ninjutsu, which they could use for more burst? I guess? I am not a Ninja, but this sounds like a thing that could probably be true. Hell, even if its primary use is just to protect medals, that'd totally be fine if it had a duration.

    Also, I think stealth is *more* valuable in a smaller arena. Takes fking forever to get anywhere.

    Completely taking away the option to use Hide seems like a bit much. I'd love to see a Hide that could be used in combat, with an ~18s duration, with increased movement speed, and... Iunno, some medium-length cooldown. Oh, and a number 16. This would be enough to give them some unique, crispy flavor. Makes it a quick engage, or an escape from almost-death. They also can't use it willy-nilly. (Or for the entirety of a match once a lead is secured.)
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    Last edited by Mirili; 04-10-2016 at 03:43 AM. Reason: put heavy back on miasma

  2. #582
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    Dimitrii's Avatar
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Diabolos
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Petite View Post
    And yea you're right about the timer. BRD/MCH/enemy NIN could spot you easier with Detect because you'd have to rush to get in position. Worse, they could turn tails and run back to their base to stall.
    Exactly that's why I liked the second suggestion more than the first. With the first if the ability has a duration you can just stall and render the ability useless anyway. At least with the second option they could have more time to use hide effectively when its available (i.e does not have heavy medal status). Its a common tactic to stall like that, at least for me anyway when I'm in a match and I know I'm gonna be the focus of the enemies initial burst based on knowledge of the opponents tendencies from previous matches against me if I recognize them.
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  3. #583
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    Petite Poutine
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    It just happened to me lol. We had to fight for coins and scraps. Barely won this match.

    http://i.imgur.com/cIw7HIm.jpg

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    Last edited by Petite; 04-10-2016 at 04:30 PM.

  4. #584
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    NoelNoel's Avatar
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    N'oeru Harun
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    (which esperated something like OIP affecting aetherflow, which in all honesty, a SMN can counter play, but SCH doesn't have that luxury)
    "Couterplay" lols. Would a MNK remove the stacks only once in a fight, that's a huge dps loss for a SMN. So please... What counterplay are you possibly referring too? Trying to CC or focus down one individual for a whole match just because if you don't they are gonna render you nearly useless? It's not like SMN CC is great anymore, and let's not talk about the things egi can do for you because before they even react to your command or unless you have some clairvoyant talents to steady them right before you're gonna get attacked, a MNK has a big chance to remove your stacks before Crimson Cyclone or Shockwave takes effect. Currently the only thing a good MNK needs to do is keep track of when a SMN refreshes Aetherflow, attack them right after, dispell and poof, SMN useless for another minute.
    Not saying this is what always happens since you rarely get harrassed a whole match, but losing your stacks once or twice is already way too much considering the nerfs SMN already suffer. Would you like to have your BtE unavailable for 2 mins? Oh and Gauss Round and Ricochet? That's basically what it equates to for a SMN.
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  5. #585
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    ShaluaLie's Avatar
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    Shalua Lie
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    Behemoth
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    Ninja Lv 80
    As i main nin yeah its real cheesey going stealth and waiting out a match. make hide have a duration while inside say 10 seconds with no movement decrease. and have a cd of 50 with a upgraded version reduced to 30 or something.
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  6. #586
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    xxczx's Avatar
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    Dark Falz
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    Omega
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ShaluaLie View Post
    As i main nin yeah its real cheesey going stealth and waiting out a match. make hide have a duration while inside say 10 seconds with no movement decrease. and have a cd of 50 with a upgraded version reduced to 30 or something.
    that's a free trick attack. you got fetter ward, calm down.
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  7. #587
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    Shalua Lie
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    Behemoth
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    Ninja Lv 80
    yeah we do get fetter ward i know im just talking about the person that was sayin nins grab all the medals and just stealth for the rest of the match for n ez win.
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  8. #588
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    MixZ's Avatar
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    Mix Zawa
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 96
    My only concern that in the solo ranks certain people don't like to work together with their group. Pretty much their way or no way. Not really much the devs can do about that just wished rank party was a thing but can see why it is not happening with win trading being an issue.
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  9. #589
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Diabolos
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    How do you win trade when they disabled the language filter in DF for Feast?
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  10. #590
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    Sharpen your fangs and claws because the first season of the Feast is planned to commence on Thursday, April 14!

    I'll see you on the battlefield!
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