Thread: 3.2 PvP: Feast Game Mode Discussion Thread.

Originally Posted by RedHerb

Monk was a hard counter to both of the Arcanist trees. I've been entirely shut down in pvp by Monk using shoulder tacking, somersault, then oip to strip all of my buffs at once. Scholar loses all of it's instant cast heals and defensive bonuses, Summoner loses literally every skill it has. That's honestly not fair in any way.

aetherflow is 1min cd, they didn't get shut down at all.

the people that complained about monk are the smn/schs that popped aetherflow and waited until they needed it instead of keeping aetherflow off cd and using it as burst instead. you CANNOT play the same with monk in the other party, you NEED to change your strat. this is what monk was all about but not anymore.

When I think hard Counters, I think...Let's see Blade And Soul has a PVP system worth noting. Let's try Destroyers versus Ninjas. Or Monk against Summoner in that game(ironic). I consider these things actual hard counters. You guys are really speaking as if we can One Illm Punch at will which is completely wrong. No. It takes 2 GCD to reach for the first then 3 GCD every time after that(if you'r trying to maintain GL3 like you should). Again, typically the caster in question has more than one buff on them at the time. Aetherflow is literally the last the One llm Punch typically removes(from my experience in using it). And no, what? SCH still has 6 stacks in reserve(provided Aetherflow is up again) and SMN with 3. SMN have more tools to work with under the loss of Aetherflow

Originally Posted by Lorielle

Aetherflow is literally the last the One llm Punch typically removes(from my experience in using it).

one ilm punch is random but you have to be extremely luck to get rid of aetherflow first hit

YOSHIDA:- YOU FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE:

ALLOW US TO SAVE THE PVP SKILL SET FOR EACH JOB!!!!!!!!!!

I had to caps cause I'm so pissed off.

PVP thought for today:

Can we get a 30 second warning before the round ends like the 30 minute warning for duties? I'm kind of busy with killing people to realize we're almost out of time and a hail mary play may work better than a more defensive one (or vice versa, if my solo queue team manages to be winning).

Originally Posted by Petite

Removing Hide would be overkill. They could put Hide on a minute cooldown after unstealthing and make the stealth duration 30 seconds. Or make it so you can't stealth with 3 or more Heavy Metal stacks.

This is a good point and I like the second suggestion it sounds like a nice idea to implement since it would still allow them to use trick attack at the start of skirmishes but not hide with an abundance of medals. However is there a specific reason as to why choose to lock it at 3 stacks that im not thinking of or was that number arbitrary? Cause I'd take ur suggestion except go a little further and say if you have heavy medal debuff period you cannot utilize hide.

Originally Posted by Dimitrii

This is a good point and I like the second suggestion it sounds like a nice idea to implement since it would still allow them to use trick attack at the start of skirmishes but not hide with an abundance of medals. However is there a specific reason as to why choose to lock it at 3 stacks that im not thinking of or was that number arbitrary? Cause I'd take ur suggestion except go a little further and say if you have heavy medal debuff period you cannot utilize hide.

I just threw this idea on the spot so yes, the number of stacks its arbitrary. Stopped at 3 because its not a deal breaker if someone decides to hide away with 3.

And yea you're right about the timer. BRD/MCH/enemy NIN could spot you easier with Detect because you'd have to rush to get in position. Worse, they could turn tails and run back to their base to stall.

Originally Posted by Petite

And yea you're right about the timer. BRD/MCH/enemy NIN could spot you easier with Detect because you'd have to rush to get in position. Worse, they could turn tails and run back to their base to stall.

Exactly that's why I liked the second suggestion more than the first. With the first if the ability has a duration you can just stall and render the ability useless anyway. At least with the second option they could have more time to use hide effectively when its available (i.e does not have heavy medal status). Its a common tactic to stall like that, at least for me anyway when I'm in a match and I know I'm gonna be the focus of the enemies initial burst based on knowledge of the opponents tendencies from previous matches against me if I recognize them.