Another way to not get what we want is by letting them know how well we can make 2 retainers work. It almost seems like you're trying to politely tell me I'm wrong by telling me we don't need more retainers because of how well YOU can manage without them. The tactic of "pressure with your wallet" isn't going to work because NOBODY or at least not nearly enough people are going to even try. Why even bother to try and convince people of that? It's so much easier to say "Hey, you're right, SE give us some retainers!" instead of "Well I manage pretty well without them, I only have 2 retainers and 10 level 60's and this is how I manage-." I would rather say, "look at my bill! this is outrageous!" 1. because it's a fact that I am paying for it 2. because it is outrageous. Now give us some more retainers!!! Please!!