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    Well looks like OP got his wish granted coming this 3.2 patch. A shame, I was sure they'd remove rank requirements next expansion like they did.

    I guess all people need to do is just wait ~ 2 patch cycles for them to remove the requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Well looks like OP got his wish granted coming this 3.2 patch. A shame, I was sure they'd remove rank requirements next expansion like they did.

    I guess all people need to do is just wait ~ 2 patch cycles for them to remove the requirement.
    They're also adding new gear with the new patch. They said they're removing ranks restriction for the 180 gear, but they didn't say anything about the 205 gear that they are adding. That leads me to assume that the newest gear is going to also be rank locked ... meaning the OP will have something new to bitch about and we'll see another thread just like this in a couple of weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    They're also adding new gear with the new patch. They said they're removing ranks restriction for the 180 gear, but they didn't say anything about the 205 gear that they are adding. That leads me to assume that the newest gear is going to also be rank locked ... meaning the OP will have something new to bitch about and we'll see another thread just like this in a couple of weeks.
    Just wait a few months and the new gear's rank will be unlocked for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Just wait a few months and the new gear's rank will be unlocked for all.
    They do this with PVE gear as well, whats the difference? Old gear is always unlocked when new stuff is out. Don't see the community complaining about how ilvl 210 will be faceroll easy to achieve this update in PVE.
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    Last edited by Dimitrii; 02-21-2016 at 08:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    They do this with PVE gear as well, whats the difference?
    Do they?

    PvP Rank is effectively your PvP level. Case and point, the higher your PvP Rank, the more AP you have, the stronger your PvP actions are. The higher your PvP Rank, the stronger you become in PvP.

    When have they ever gone "You know what? This awesome piece of Lv50 gear should be available to brand new players too!"?

    Someone who is Rank 2 in PvP should not be wearing Rank 50 PvP gear, in the same way someone who is Lv2 should not be wearing High Allagan stuff... Was bad enough when some tank body gear dropped in Diadem, and I tried it on only to see it was Armor of the Behemoth King... I know random models was the whole point of Diadem, but come on! Why do we even need to remove the Rank requirement with that in mind? This shit has already lost its uniqueness thanks to Diadem. PvP gear in general is just a massive mess at this point, no idea what they're doing with it or why they felt the need to add more to it... I can only imagine they've done this just to cave in to demands for newbs to have the Lv60 sets, so they had to add new Lv60 sets for the Rank 50s, apparently ignoring the fact that those same newbs are now going to complain about these sets being gated behind Rank 50 (or are they adding new Ranks?). They're just making matters worse, this is an all or nothing scenario, either you're Rank 50 and get the sets, or you're not and you complain... At least when everything had a Rank requirement, there was some semblance of progression; You got this set at Rank 30, this set at Rank 40, and so on. Now they just add new sets for people to complain about being gated behind Rank 50, or worse add new Ranks for people to complain about being too much of a grind (when it really isn't).

    When PvP gear actually did something, this was a valid concern, but PvP gear doesn't do anything anymore... It's vanity gear, and you're just cheapening its value by removing any effort in its acquisition. Nobody wins in this scenario... The short sighted idiots who complained about this might think they're getting something, but they're just going to move on to complaining about the new set soon enough... Whatever though, Diamond Rank gear is going to be a thing... Hopefully you don't screw that over...
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    Last edited by Nalien; 02-21-2016 at 03:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    They're also adding new gear with the new patch. They said they're removing ranks restriction for the 180 gear, but they didn't say anything about the 205 gear that they are adding. That leads me to assume that the newest gear is going to also be rank locked ... meaning the OP will have something new to bitch about and we'll see another thread just like this in a couple of weeks.
    I don't think this is the case. If you go back and look at the 3.05 notes when they added the 180 gear its implicitly stated there "Cannot equip if PvP rank is below 50." The 3.2 notes make no mention of a rank requirement (Im guessing the new gear is tied into the feast somehow.)

    I could be wrong but sounds to me like rank is going to be nothing more than extra action points
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enlial View Post
    I don't think this is the case. If you go back and look at the 3.05 notes when they added the 180 gear its implicitly stated there "Cannot equip if PvP rank is below 50." The 3.2 notes make no mention of a rank requirement (Im guessing the new gear is tied into the feast somehow.)I could be wrong but sounds to me like rank is going to be nothing more than extra action points
    It depends on the gear.

    They haven't clarified how much new PvP gear will be available with the patch. We don't know if each individual job is getting their own set, or if they're dividing it by job type like they did with the last set (Ie: Tank set, Healer set, etc). One thing that we do know is that they specified a new PvP set at lvl 205, and that some of the gear will be locked behind your seasonal ranking. SE stated that the Diamond League, in particular, will have it's own gear rewards. If the seasonal ranking (Feast) gear is the only gear being released, then no one will be getting it besides the very best and most die-hard PvP'ers. In that regard, the new gear will be even more exclusive than it is now.

    SE could also be releasing additional gear sets that are not tied to your seasonal rank, but we don't know this just yet. We also don't know if those hypothetical sets will be tied to rank or not. They haven't said one way or another. The only thing that they have said, is that the diamond league will have it's own set, and I'm sure a lot of people are going to think they're entitled to it regardless of how much work they put into actually getting it.
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    Last edited by Februs; 02-21-2016 at 06:35 PM.