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    Serilda's Avatar
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    I also want to challenge the 'most people' assertion; I've never met anyone who does this. Maybe most people on your server or in your circles, sure. Personally I've never set foot in WD because it's impossible to get it to pop these days, but I really love FL so it turned out ok. If you don't love FL I don't really understand why you want the gear so much that you need to have it now; the unlocked ilv100/110 sets are way more interesting, design-wise.

    It's an issue that if you start fresh and don't want the glamours you basically have no rewards for most of the levels up to 45, then you suddenly get a bunch of things in quick succession. But it's not an insurmountable barrier.

    Even if they unlock the current items I'd expect them to add a new tier to reward the people who bothered with the levelling up instead of complaining, so you're still going to be annoyed other people have something you don't. And that's how it should be - rewards come after doing something, not before.
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    Even if they unlock the current items I'd expect them to add a new tier to reward the people who bothered with the levelling up instead of complaining, so you're still going to be annoyed other people have something you don't. And that's how it should be - rewards come after doing something, not before.
    Yeah, that is not a good way to reward people.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 01-17-2016 at 04:21 PM.

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    Dark Falz
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    Marauder Lv 80
    OP just wants to equip PvP gear without doing PvP which is completely stupid. Can I equip Alex Savage gear without doing Savage pls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    OP just wants to equip PvP gear without doing PvP which is completely stupid. Can I equip Alex Savage gear without doing Savage pls.
    There is a HUGE difference to this.

    This has no comparison to that.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 01-17-2016 at 04:21 PM.

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    Selli Noblesse
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    Gilgamesh
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    It is very easy to rank up now. I joined the Immortal Flames 11/19/2015 and I hit rank 50 on 1/08/2016. That is 50 days to go from rank 0 to rank 50.

    Do your roulette, you get an extra 600 EXP (basically a free win) regardless of what place you come in. You're on the Aether Data Center which has weekly events (Friday Night Wolves' Den and Saturday Night Secure) so it's very easy to fill out your challenge log. If you put in a little bit of effort, they are literally spoon feeding you the EXP.

    You are not going to find any sympathy here. You have to earn your rewards and ranks. Raiders are not spoon fed gear either, they actually have to clear the content (sometimes repeatedly) for loot, they don't just walk into A3S wipe in the add phase and obtain rewards because "Team Living Liquid" won, because you can do that in PvP for about FL 700 games and hit rank 50.

    I can't even find you on xiv-pvp.com nor in Balmung's Maelstrom Weekly or Monthly Frontline Standings, so I'm going to assume that even now you still don't participate in PvP. You seem very keen to complain about something that you have very little experience in and very little interest in doing. I don't understand why you have PvP included in your signature if this is the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
    It is very easy to rank up now. I joined the Immortal Flames 11/19/2015 and I hit rank 50 on 1/08/2016. That is 50 days to go from rank 0 to rank 50.

    Do your roulette, you get an extra 600 EXP (basically a free win) regardless of what place you come in. You're on the Aether Data Center which has weekly events (Friday Night Wolves' Den and Saturday Night Secure) so it's very easy to fill out your challenge log. If you put in a little bit of effort, they are literally spoon feeding you the EXP.

    You are not going to find any sympathy here. You have to earn your rewards and ranks. Raiders are not spoon fed gear either, they actually have to clear the content (sometimes repeatedly) for loot, they don't just walk into A3S wipe in the add phase and obtain rewards because "Team Living Liquid" won, because you can do that in PvP for about FL 700 games and hit rank 50.

    I can't even find you on xiv-pvp.com nor in Balmung's Maelstrom Weekly or Monthly Frontline Standings, so I'm going to assume that even now you still don't participate in PvP. You seem very keen to complain about something that you have very little experience in and very interest in doing. I don't understand why you have PvP included in your signature if this is the case.
    That has nothing to do with PvP. Raiders can wear their gear as soon as they get it.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 01-17-2016 at 04:20 PM.

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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    That has nothing to do with PvP. Raiders can wear their gear as soon as they get it.
    If it even drops, or once you save up enough tokens for it. But if you don't win you get nothing, unlike in PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    That has nothing to do with PvP. Raiders can wear their gear as soon as they get it.
    Okay.

    So you want people to walk into PvP, win one game and have 1mil Wolf Marks, ADS, every GC pony, and Field Commander? Because you seem to be claiming that's how easy the raiding scene is currently.

    I hate to break this to you, but this is a game. If you got all the rewards at once there would be no replay value. That's why players are rewarded in different ways for different content. Wolf Marks and ranked gear are the PvP equivalent to tome PvE gear. You don't have to work very hard, but if you do it enough, you can eventually get the full set you want.
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