FFXIV is becoming a grind fest with little enjoyment.

[TroySoFab]

A wise game dev once said "Disappointment and grinding, these are the core elements of our games"

[Juzjuzz]

Basically everyone is bored. I personally believe it's the lack of challenge. Making things challenging comes with it's own problems though. You'll have people being toxic to others of they don't play perfectly so if it's brain dead easy, elitist or try hards that are apathetic will let bad play slide a little more because it's still being completed.

But then.. It's a bore fest.

They need to add more layers to this game but our average player skill is so crap, that they don't do it without people crying. There are people at 60 who STILL don't want to run aurum vale for a fellow FC member cuz they found it "tough"

It's not player skill, the will to learn is just non-existant in some players. They just want to turn their brain off and "play".

Blame SE all you want for making the game easy, it's also the fault of the players. As long as the behavior of more experienced player doesn't change don't expect the difficulty to rise in the next expantion, you'll just get dissapointed.

Tbh i'm not guiving any shit to toxic players anymore casual or triple legend it's just the same shit with a different color. Pushing buttons is something anyone can learn even without a lot of time just like good behavior is a skill that make the game fun to play.

[Garnix]

I started reading this thread and then realized it was from 2016...good bait Troy!

[Jirah]

Doesnt help that they nonchalantly give away rewards for side content with the moogle tomestones which completely deletes the point of those content like beast tribes, EX and eureka just to fill in a content drought.

[van_arn]

The last few months of an expansion are usually like this. Please enjoy the vacation so you can hit Endwalker hard.

[Marcman]

Why ress a 5 year old thread with a quote that may not be attached to the game at all..?

[ReynTime]

Why ress a 5 year old thread with a quote that may not be attached to the game at all..?

Nothing changed about the reward/grind structure in the past 5 years though.

[Shialan]

And nothing will change in the next 5 years. There is a reason why all these threads died.