Not sure if this is linked yet...LoV Trailer

[UBERHAXED]

Yeah a Battle Square system would be nice. A PvE sub-game in a PvE game, but no let's put a RTS instead...

Was playing through 7 yesterday and felt this was missing.

[Canadane]

(aside from Skinchange, I dislike that one because some of the changes are so insignificant that it just becomes annoying to check each and every detail and try to remember...)

Take a screenshot!

[Yukiko]

(..) Tournaments are a great way to keep the content alive, it worked well for Triple Triad though that is much simpler than Verminion, (..)

Wait, what? You seriously on this part? Do you really mean the cheatfest where it only counts how many alts you own on same server?!
Players are playing against NPC, they dont need to wait for matchmaking, which is a lot better than what we have in LoV turnaments!

[Youkulm]

Apparently they had to make a trailer to get people interested? Is there a trailer for Triple Triad? ( honestly curious as this is by far the most popular Gold Saucer attraction )

Guess no one's playing it. Who woulda guessed . I have yet to meet a single person in game that likes LoV or thought it was a good idea. At least with chocobo racing I would get lukewarm responses about people's feelings over the attraction... I myself in fact enjoy it as well even though I can't queue outside Gold Saucer.

Please casuals, ask for more content no one is going to use after the first few days of its launch. /sarcasm

[Nalien]

Wait, what? You seriously on this part? Do you really mean the cheatfest where it only counts how many alts you own on same server?!

It worked well in the fact that I always see people playing Triple Triad when the Tournament is up, and no, they're not all cheating, I see plenty of people challenging strangers and NPCs. Perhaps that's just Cerberus though.

Like I said, they need to sort out the rampant cheating, but it's still fairly popular content regardless. Quite a nice amount of extra MGP/week from just beating an NPC, after all. It worked at getting people to play Triple Triad each week.

While, like I said, Verminion is more complex (and thus potentially off putting), I was more thinking about Tournaments for Chocobo Racing, though there are some things they could do to improve Verminion Tournaments. I actually think a Verminion Challenge Tournament would be quite interesting, rather than the PvP aspect of it.

[Warlyx]

Please casuals, ask for more content no one is going to use after the first few days of its launch. /sarcasm

dont blame casuals, im fairly sure not even casuals asked for something like LOV ...BLAME SE , they wanted to put this "mini game" (maybe its more popular in JP servers?) ...ppl wanted Battle Square , Snowboard the most

[Youkulm]

dont blame casuals, im fairly sure not even casuals asked for something like LOV ...BLAME SE , they wanted to put this "mini game" (maybe its more popular in JP servers?) ...ppl wanted Battle Square , Snowboard the most

They put it in because players clamored for it on the forums sooo.. no? If you go back far enough you'll find countless "We want minion battle mini games" posts. Yes it was SEs bad judgement in agreeing to do something so convoluted, but that doesn't detract that everyone comes to the forums to ask for the littlest things they want even if they have absolutely nothing to do with the game, or to the detriment to the game as a whole. You can see more than a handful of these genre of topics if you go back to the root of this forum right now.

To be fair there is a huge difference in asking for QoL changes ( like how they added toggling gathering skills while mounted, which was asked for and granted ), versus wasted countless development time on something like LoV ( LoV will always, from this point on, take development time away from the rest of the game. For every minion they add they have to take away from developing something else to make that minion capable of battle in LoV. It needs skills, actions and more animations... )

LoV is a virus set upon all of Eorzea and its future lol. Why? let's keep in mind that SE only budgets so much to FFXIV even though it rakes in dollars. This effects what can be developed and most of all the size of the dev team.

That's all I have to say about that...

[Alahra]

One question: was there really a strong demand for something like LoV to be added to the GS? RTS games aren't exactly known to be aimed at a casual audience. Perhaps a basic rock-paper-scissors battle system would've been better for it...

I'm horrible at RTS games, so I didn't even make it through the full tutorial before giving up. Something more basic, like WoW's pet battles, probably would have really kept me playing it for a long time.

[Tsuga]

...because if you put everything that is in the Cash Shop in as a MGP item, you could fix that fairly easily...

This would be really cool.

I think mgp incentives and more exclusive rewards for the bigger games are necessary. Chocobo Racing and Verminion are huge time investments, and there just isn't really anything there to hook people if they don't absolutely love playing the minigame.

I enjoy chocobo racing and verminon, but I don't enjoy grinding them.

Special rules like TT has might keep the games fresh, too. Daily challenges that give unique rewards (10 pots of a rare dye for completing them?), restrictions for player matches, bonuses for completing certain tasks (+100 mgp if you break all 3 of your opponents gates, something like that?), anything to mix it up!

On golden saucer as a whole, can we please get some new GATEs? It's been a year, the current ones are getting a little stale.