Not sure if this is linked yet...LoV Trailer

[Nalien]

I think the problem is there aren't enough rewards and goals associated with LoV (or Chocobo Races). It takes a lot of time to get a high pedigree chocobo for example and your reward is a title? A hat? And that's it. I think if these mini-games had more rewards to work toward we would see more of a community with them.

Part of the problem is MGP... They kind of messed it up IMO, you have a few small items to get with it, and that's great, but then you have massive grinds for things like Fenrir... You get the small items very quickly, then you're just left with one or two massive grinds that just kill the fun. Kind of a shame, too, because if you put everything that is in the Cash Shop in as a MGP item, you could fix that fairly easily... MGP should be the primary reward for anything in Gold Saucer, but there is just such a limited pool of prizes to pick from in the end...

Something like Chocobo Racing especially should be far more rewarding than it is, given how much of a grind it is. They either need to kill the grind or boost the rewards, because nobody is going to bother otherwise. Other than that, they just need to sort out tournaments. Tournaments are a great way to keep the content alive, it worked well for Triple Triad though that is much simpler than Verminion, but the rampant match fixing just erodes peoples interest. I do wonder why we never saw Chocobo Race Tournaments, but given Triple Triad is still handled horribly, I'm glad we never have...

[Yukiko]

(..) Tournaments are a great way to keep the content alive, it worked well for Triple Triad though that is much simpler than Verminion, (..)

Wait, what? You seriously on this part? Do you really mean the cheatfest where it only counts how many alts you own on same server?!
Players are playing against NPC, they dont need to wait for matchmaking, which is a lot better than what we have in LoV turnaments!

[Nalien]

Wait, what? You seriously on this part? Do you really mean the cheatfest where it only counts how many alts you own on same server?!

It worked well in the fact that I always see people playing Triple Triad when the Tournament is up, and no, they're not all cheating, I see plenty of people challenging strangers and NPCs. Perhaps that's just Cerberus though.

Like I said, they need to sort out the rampant cheating, but it's still fairly popular content regardless. Quite a nice amount of extra MGP/week from just beating an NPC, after all. It worked at getting people to play Triple Triad each week.

While, like I said, Verminion is more complex (and thus potentially off putting), I was more thinking about Tournaments for Chocobo Racing, though there are some things they could do to improve Verminion Tournaments. I actually think a Verminion Challenge Tournament would be quite interesting, rather than the PvP aspect of it.

[Tsuga]

...because if you put everything that is in the Cash Shop in as a MGP item, you could fix that fairly easily...

This would be really cool.

I think mgp incentives and more exclusive rewards for the bigger games are necessary. Chocobo Racing and Verminion are huge time investments, and there just isn't really anything there to hook people if they don't absolutely love playing the minigame.

I enjoy chocobo racing and verminon, but I don't enjoy grinding them.

Special rules like TT has might keep the games fresh, too. Daily challenges that give unique rewards (10 pots of a rare dye for completing them?), restrictions for player matches, bonuses for completing certain tasks (+100 mgp if you break all 3 of your opponents gates, something like that?), anything to mix it up!

On golden saucer as a whole, can we please get some new GATEs? It's been a year, the current ones are getting a little stale.