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    I had a feeling off-topic discussions would come up with the language-specific server brought up by Yoshi-P, but please do try to keep this thread civil and in-topic and not deal into touchy issues like racism.

    Also, I would like to remind people it's not like FFXIV is going to be divided completely into their own language servers as Global servers will still exist. While I am a Japanese person who is fine with playing with other players in the Global server, I do have to say and agree that a significant number of fellow JP players will move to the Japanese language-specific servers, if only for the simple want of not having to deal with the language barrier. Personally, I think this issue is more potent than that of the issue of racism. I like playing in a Global server because I can speak/write in multiple languages.

    And while some people are concerned that this may lower the population of Global servers, with the server transfers in place in FFXIV 2.0, I think there will also be server mergers. So we might not see that much of a decline in Global servers than one might think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapingofness View Post
    "PvP/Massive PvP" - .... I just can't help but feel that this game is really going to become another WoW clone.
    Really... wow. If ANYTHING makes this game NOT a WoW clone its that. PvP? Hell, MASSIVE PvP at that? If you ask people where some of the worst, basic, remedial, laughably bad PvP is located, its uh... WoW. Even the hardcore WoW-heads will agree. Have you ever played WoW? Haha, like... that is just horrible. And if you have, have you ever played DAoC, Ultima, WAR, or any game with actual good PvP where the developers came out, much like here, and said 'We will focus on PvP'? Believe me, it doesn't end up like WoW.

    Just short and to the point - good, thought out PvP makes this NOT a WoW clone.
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    Yeah, it's not wholly an issue of racism, but it certainly plays a significant role. The point is, ANYONE who played XI for a long time will tell you the JP are going bye bye. Which I think is sad since I enjoy being around people of culture's different from my own and learning from them. But without SE having mandatory international servers, we won't be seeing too many JP players anymore, and the international servers will more likely be a mix of euro/american and then maybe some hispanic and other asian groups if they really work hard on the number of translations.
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    Yes, this game will be a WoW clone. They tried to be 'unique' -- anyone remember the hype here? They were taking down the 'holy trinity'! Seamless world! no levels! Fully customizable classes!

    Now they're going to copy the market leader. It makes good business sense. It's going to be a WoW clone, albeit a shinier, cleaner WoW clone. Split hairs any which way you want to, but it is what it is.
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    However, in order to continue these services for our customers who have bought this game and for our customers who continue to play this game, even if we didn't factor in development costs, there are also server maintenance costs, 24-hour GM support costs and many others that require consideration, so we need funding in order to continue operating.
    This is the part that everyone really needs to pay attention to. It doesn't matter which side of the Pay-Debate you are on.

    To paraphrase, "...In order to keep the servers open and operating we need to renew subscription fees."

    Summation: $$$ = Servers stay up.

    No $$$ = No Servers...or rather fewer servers. That will be up to the accounting department.

    Hence the "pitch" from Yoshi P: (paraphrased)

    ..."We want to allow those of you who enjoy the game as it is now to experience the changes in store for Eorzea. We have special events and storylines planned that can only be experienced before v2.0 goes live. We hope you will choose to stay with us through these exciting (and challenging) times and as always we value and rely on your continued feedback..."


    It is certainly possible (and plausible to boot) that if they don't get enough subs, they may just shut down till 2013.

    However, I think they will do all they can to avoid that.
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    I like how many people with obvious prescience ability are in this thread, who obviously know things about 2.0 that none of us knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilaAquillina View Post
    Yes, this game will be a WoW clone. They tried to be 'unique' -- anyone remember the hype here? They were taking down the 'holy trinity'! Seamless world! no levels! Fully customizable classes!

    Now they're going to copy the market leader. It makes good business sense. It's going to be a WoW clone, albeit a shinier, cleaner WoW clone. Split hairs any which way you want to, but it is what it is.
    I see issues of "FFXIV is turning into WoW" comments all the time, but then again, sometimes I wonder:

    Is that a bad thing?

    I mean really. You said it yourself, it's going to be a WoW clone, albeit a shinier, cleaner WoW clone. Is that really a bad thing?

    Jokes aside, it's too early to tell. We will only know once it's out and once we play. Only then can we pass the final judgement if it's a clone or not. Until then, it's all speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislaw View Post
    Jokes aside, it's too early to tell. We will only know once it's out and once we play. Only then can we pass the final judgement if it's a clone or not. Until then, it's all speculation.
    Can't argue with that. However, I can say that I never got into WoW too much for a reason. It was a fun game to play and it didn't have some issues that XI had -- but it also had issues that XI didn't have. Ultimately, I liked XI more.

    However, it is all speculation at this point. We'll know in 2013 ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilaAquillina View Post
    Yes, this game will be a WoW clone. They tried to be 'unique' -- anyone remember the hype here? They were taking down the 'holy trinity'! Seamless world! no levels! Fully customizable classes!

    Now they're going to copy the market leader. It makes good business sense. It's going to be a WoW clone, albeit a shinier, cleaner WoW clone. Split hairs any which way you want to, but it is what it is.
    Becoming a wow clone wont help them you just going to piss a lot of people off once blizzard new mmo come out it be ffxi vs wow all over again. Sorry but they could make the game unique work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    That will make the community even smaller........ right now were at 100%, after this we could be sitting at less then 50%.
    You do realize that this is one of the JP players biggest concerns theres a 900 post topic on the JP general forum complaining about not having JP only servers.

    It will also make the game easier for US players to play because now you know everyone speaks English.
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