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    Reinha is right, my suggestion does rely on the assumption SE is willing to creat more wards depending on the demand. Which I doubt SE will do for nothing. In the end it just means more working hours for them which equals in more workers and with that more wages to pay. Putting an option for reserving ingame therefore will do nothing for the creator except producing more work. People only work for money so their work actually pays out.

    The eternal bonding example was to show that on the one side there are ppl who are willing to pay actual money for vanity items (ppl I know all went for platinum not the free) and on the other side there is SE who happily work a little harder when being paid. Also I was not thinking of a lot. Maybe like 3 Euros as for one of the minions.

    Yet I don't think it moves the current problem to a different platform. This is where the original example from the movie tickets comes in. Do ppl whine and cry over not getting a seat in the premiere night just because someone was faster buying the seats? No. Well sometimes. At least not to such an extend. They just settle for a later time and date and wait a little longer to see the movie. Same thing for the house. If I don't get my house this update I'll get one with the next in a couple of weeks.

    Well, seems like that idea wasn't as good as I thought after all. Considering what you guys suggested it would either need a fair player base or SE would have to be a lot harder on those reselling plots for riddiculous high amounts of money. Idk. In the end I'm just trying to find a solution for the situation that not only satisfies the playerbase but also would make the creators happy to do it for us. Since ppl don't live from love-your-next alone I did come to the assumption that the only way would be some sort of a real money trade situation with the creators themselves as messed up as it sounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendair View Post
    Well, seems like that idea wasn't as good as I thought after all. Considering what you guys suggested... In the end I'm just trying to find a solution for the situation that not only satisfies the playerbase but also would make the creators happy to do it for us...
    Not as good but not bad as well. The reservation system would make it impossible to resell to a specific player. Thus would kill off that market instantly. But also why I limit it to 3 days at most.

    Overall an active reservation on a full plot would last 45 days after which you would need to renew it(this would be shown in your timers window). After the plot is freed you get notified and have 3 days to purchase it. If you don't it passes on to the next in line and so on until no more reservations at which point it becomes a free plot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendair View Post
    The eternal bonding example was to show that on the one side there are ppl who are willing to pay actual money for vanity items ...
    ...Also I was not thinking of a lot. Maybe like 3 Euros as for one of the minions...

    ...I did come to the assumption that the only way would be some sort of a real money trade situation with the creators themselves as messed up as it sounds.
    To answer your points:

    Yes, people will pay real money for vanity, but a house isn't just vanity.
    We waited months for our FC house and it has radically changed how we play the game and socialise as an FC. Best purchase ever. It gives us access to stables, airships and the Aetherial wheel thingy for buffs (which we haven't looked at yet) all of those are utility things, not fluff.
    I know you can use another company's airship to go to the Diadem but it doesn't give nearly as much benefit as having your own.

    Most important, housing is heavily promoted as a feature of the game, not an optional extra. I'm paying a sub, that should be enough. Being able to pay for extra retainers is bad enough, introducing more micro-transactions that give you an advantage in game is not the way I'd like to see things going.
    I know you said you weren't thinking of charging a lot of money, but if this was implemented it wouldn't be up to players to set the price and there is no guarantee it would be low.

    The main problem with housing is there isn't enough.
    Personally, I feel it would be better to keep up the pressure for extra wards and instanced personal housing, both of which are being introduced rather than give the impression that we'd be happy to pay real money for something that ought to be available to everyone.

    On the other hand, if there was a system in-game that allowed you to put your name down for a house in a particular area and made a list of players/companies who would then be offered available houses on a first-come-first-served basis, then I could get behind your suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
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    Honestly I didn't think of that point at all. And it's a very good and valid one! (in my defense: I never used it before so....... hehe ) I was just seeing it from an objective point that somebody else stated yesterday as well in the thread "Just came backlost my house!" (which got deleted for some reason?). SE is a company and the sole purpose of a company is making money. If something isn't a profitable source of income it's not on top of the priority list.

    Looking at the additional content with the FC housing I think you're absolutely right saying
    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
    I'm paying a sub, that should be enough. (...) rather than give the impression that we'd be happy to pay real money for something that ought to be available to everyone.
    Considering you're locked out of content yes, it should be free and for all to use. My apologies for leaving that rather big part out of the equation.

    I do like this idea a lot:

    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
    On the other hand, if there was a system in-game that allowed you to put your name down (...)
    So we need an NPC in each housing area where you can put your name down that you're interested in a Small/Medium/Large house in general and would buy one if only any were available. That helps SE knowing how many plots are wanted/needed. Next update: enough wards for all! (Again wishful thinking hoping SE hears our pleas! )

    I fail to understand the actual issue that stops SE from implementing as many wards as are needed to satisfy the demand already. There must be a solid reason for it else they would have done so already, no? If somebody knows, please share, because I really would like to understand.
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