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  1. #21
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragology View Post
    You made a brand new character just to have carbuncle again? Wouldn't it have been easier to unequip the soul stone to get the carbuncles back?
    by "creating" i meant i played the arc towards 50 before taking any actions in the smn cls itself ^^
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  2. #22
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragology View Post
    You made a brand new character just to have carbuncle again? Wouldn't it have been easier to unequip the soul stone to get the carbuncles back?
    They probably just made an ACN gear set. That's what I did. I missed my Carby too.
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  3. #23
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Ah! I didn't realize you had done this on purpose. I thought maybe you had missed the Job class.

    I'm going to take this thread and post it the next time I see a thread here or on the Facebook pages I frequent about "required" skills for a white mage. It's mainly related to cross-class, but this make a good argument even for class skills. I always take the position that additional skills are handy, but I would never slap the "required" moniker on them because it only leads to cookie cutter mentality. So I applaud your thinking outside the box.
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  4. #24
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    m3eansean's Avatar
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    Kakashi Hatake
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Ah! I didn't realize you had done this on purpose. I thought maybe you had missed the Job class.

    I'm going to take this thread and post it the next time I see a thread here or on the Facebook pages I frequent about "required" skills for a white mage. It's mainly related to cross-class, but this make a good argument even for class skills. I always take the position that additional skills are handy, but I would never slap the "required" moniker on them because it only leads to cookie cutter mentality. So I applaud your thinking outside the box.
    Each job has required skills. Each Job crystal is required. Try doing any relevant endgame content without your required skills and you will be kicked faster than you can say "what is swiftcast?".

    All this person did was some early game content and forced some people in the DF to put up with him attempting to heal beyond level 30 without his soulstone.
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  5. #25
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Ah! I didn't realize you had done this on purpose. I thought maybe you had missed the Job class.

    I'm going to take this thread and post it the next time I see a thread here or on the Facebook pages I frequent about "required" skills for a white mage. It's mainly related to cross-class, but this make a good argument even for class skills. I always take the position that additional skills are handy, but I would never slap the "required" moniker on them because it only leads to cookie cutter mentality. So I applaud your thinking outside the box.
    He's not even gone past snowcloak (yet is level 58, must have done a lot of grinding). Dungeons are easy, and is not a good argument.

    Find someone who has cleared savage (or even synced coil) as a conjurer then we'll talk.

    I'll tell you right now, a healer without swiftcast, a physical dps without invigorate, and a tank without provoke will always fail to do their job compared to someone who has them. In this sense, these skills are indeed required.
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  6. #26
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    BeautifulNerf's Avatar
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    Choochoo Gonepoo
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by m3eansean View Post
    Try doing any relevant endgame content without your required skills and you will be kicked faster than you can say "what is swiftcast?".
    What's considered end game for FF14? I just unlocked Leviathan Extreme and Moogle King Extreme. I watched the YT videos of each and I'm going do them in a few hours when the server isn't dead.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    He's not even gone past snowcloak (yet is level 58, must have done a lot of grinding). Dungeons are easy, and is not a good argument.
    I completely agree with you. From how I was interpreting everyone's response (be it negative or positive), I was getting the feeling that everything I've accomplished so far was considered difficult to FF14's community. So props for giving me a definite heads-up when I'm going to plateau as a healer.

    Swiftcast... nom-nom-nom. I've wanted that since day 1 of playing. I've compensated by stacking my gear for as much Spell speed as I can. Currently at 634 spell speed, so a cure is 1.79secs in dungeons (I'm looking forward to equipping my lvl 60 gear to double my spell speed).
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  8. #28
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulNerf View Post
    I completely agree with you. From how I was interpreting everyone's response (be it negative or positive), I was getting the feeling that everything I've accomplished so far was considered difficult to FF14's community. So props for giving me a definite heads-up when I'm going to plateau as a healer.

    Swiftcast... nom-nom-nom. I've wanted that since day 1 of playing. I've compensated by stacking my gear for as much Spell speed as I can. Currently at 634 spell speed, so a cure is 1.79secs in dungeons (I'm looking forward to equipping my lvl 60 gear to double my spell speed).
    I hope you don't take anything I say as offense. It is still rather impressive you made it this far (though more from a social standpoint than the actual content in my opinion, I can't help but think you've gotten ridiculously nice people in your dungeons to deal with it).

    When you enter HW content you're really going to be at a loss though, I think. You may have noticed how you completely stopped getting abilities after level 50, all of them are tied to job quests past that point, and even some of the level 60 gear is literally marked as "White Mage ONLY".
    More power to you whatever you decide to do though. I'm glad you had fun with this experiment, I've actually had fun tampering with classes in the past since they can equip up to 10 cross class slots instead of 5 and aren't limited to what classes they can pull from, there's lots of fun things you can do haha.

    As for your question of what is endgame, it's extreme primals, coil, and alexander. Alexander is the level 60 raid.
    I can't imagine you'll have an easy time with it (if you do it level synced), just not having regen would drive me crazy @_@ but at least you got medica II eh?
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 01-09-2016 at 09:40 AM.

  9. #29
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    BeautifulNerf's Avatar
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    Choochoo Gonepoo
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    It is still rather impressive you made it this far (though more from a social standpoint than the actual content in my opinion, I can't help but think you've gotten ridiculously nice people in your dungeons to deal with it)
    Well, if you're interested in the social aspect. Most of the time the dungeon starts with, "Hello, nice to meet you. LET'S DO THIS!" Types of greetings towards one another. Occasionally I'll get the random /blush emote directed at me because I have my gear skinned (male character) to tribal tatoo'd arm sleeve, subzero like mask(metallic blue), and cheetah man-thong (metallic blue).
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    Last edited by BeautifulNerf; 01-09-2016 at 01:26 PM.

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    Choochoo Gonepoo
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    White Mage Lv 100
    On the rare occasion someone will ask why I'm a conjurer (like 1 out of 30 dungeons), and on the even rarer case. Someone will rage (like 1 out of 200 dungeons). I can tell they're p/o'd because they use the auto-translate, and write paragraphs to me. For example, today I experienced the worst player in the dungeon, "The Aurum Vale". Upon entering the dungeon our Dragoon had something lengthy to say towards me while I was buffing the group/waiting for our tank to skip the cut-scene. After we entered the first room, the tank pulled the toad back into the little narrow slit we start out in (business as usual), then after that fight we pushed out, and the DRG couldn't stop agroing groups of mobs. (I swear it was intentional because we literally fought the entire first room at the same time. Me and the BLM had fun sleeping/reposing while I chain spelled cure II).
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    Last edited by BeautifulNerf; 01-09-2016 at 01:36 PM.

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