MCH, still as bad?

[RiceisNice]

SO....is the result of this thread that noone wants a MCH in a party, cos they can't do anything better than a bard?

No. That's not the point of the thread. MCH isn't bad to the point that it has no place in a raid, but it's not wrong to say to say that MCH isn't as good as a BRD in most circumstances, or that it's less preferable for cutting edge progression.

It goes back to release when both BRD and MCH were signifcantly behind other dps because WM/GB hardly boosted their dps (if not straight up lower it in some circumstances), and they lagged behind other jobs (whom had tools that increased their dps). Top that off with the encounters not not taxing mp/tp usage enough to ever require a regen, it was bad enough in some cases that BRD/MCH was a liability to get clears in (esp when Bismarck on release was a bit heavy on dps checks). It's not the case now, but there are some distinct advantages excllusive to BRD that MCH doesn't have, which gives them an edge in progression (not to mention that they scale better from stats than MCH too, esp crit)