Please don't join endgame content with a job you dont know how to play

[Ashkendor]

The shields are actually reliably stronger than the SCH's in my experience, that and the Aspected Benefic is instant-cast and far more potent than Diurnal's Aspected Benefic, and generates a shield equal to 130% of healing potency. Reliability vs hoping for a crit chance on your SCH. Though I do agree, double regen usually ends up in a silly amount of overhealing.

The dumb part is that AST can overwrite Adloquium + Deployment tactics with Aspected Helios, or can overwrite a critted shield with a non-crit shield, effectively cutting it by more than half. I'd just as soon have the AST in Diurnal if they're paired up with my SCH, but it's kinda whatever. If they insist on staying in Nocturnal, I typically just leave them to solo heal because there's no point in wasting mana on shields that will get overwritten when I could use it to DPS instead.

[KyahAlmasy]

The dumb part is that AST can overwrite Adloquium + Deployment tactics with Aspected Helios, or can overwrite a critted shield with a non-crit shield, effectively cutting it by more than half. I'd just as soon have the AST in Diurnal if they're paired up with my SCH.

I mean, if I'm on AST and I join a party with a SCH I immediately switch to Diurnal. Even if the shield priority was fixed, it makes no sense to have that much shielding going on. But I do agree, the stronger shield should have priority over the weaker one. If a SCH's shield is stronger than the AST's than it should NOT overwrite it, and vise vers, ESPECIALLY if the SCH gets a crit.

But Noct AST's do have some perks that SCH don't have. I mained SCH for a while so I weighed the pros and cons to both jobs. What I love of about Noct AST is that Aspected Benefic is reliably potent and doesn't require the AST to prey for a crit, in addition to that it's instantaneous. Unlike Adloq which has a cast time. That cast time might not seem like much, but during a raid, those instant casts can be the difference between life and death. Each job has it's own perks though, neither is better than the other.

[m3eansean]

It is endgame

I dont want to derail your topic too much, but these conditions you provided don't necessarily mean it is endgame. Titan EX requires coordination, memorization of mechanics and albeit, now a joke of a DPS check. It meets your criteria, yet we can agree it is not endgame. Ravana EX may be considered some mid-core content at this point, but due to extreme outgearing and date of content release, I would not call it endgame. Truly the only endgame is at this point is Thordan EX (this title is waning daily) and savage Alexander.

[Ashkendor]

I mean, if I'm on AST and I join a party with a SCH I immediately switch to Diurnal. Even if the shield priority was fixed, it makes no sense to have that much shielding going on. But I do agree, the stronger shield should have priority over the weaker one. If a SCH's shield is stronger than the AST's than it should NOT overwrite it, and vise vers, ESPECIALLY if the SCH gets a crit.

But Noct AST's do have some perks that SCH don't have. I mained SCH for a while so I weighed the pros and cons to both jobs. What I love of about Noct AST is that Aspected Benefic is reliably potent and doesn't require the AST to prey for a crit, in addition to that it's instantaneous. Unlike Adloq which has a cast time. That cast time might not seem like much, but during a raid, those instant casts can be the difference between life and death. Each job has it's own perks though, neither is better than the other.

Yep, I play AST myself though mostly in PvP. Nocturnal Aspected Benefic is truly a troll spell there. xD

It would be so much better all around if there was priority for shield strength between Galvanize/Nocturnal shield like there is when two SCH's are casting Adloquium so that it doesn't overwrite unless the fresh one is stronger than the one that's already there.

Titan EX requires coordination, memorization of mechanics and albeit, now a joke of a DPS check.

Not really, you can basically stand in everything aside from things that knock you off the platform if you're unsynced.

Truly the only endgame is at this point is Thordan EX (this title is waning daily) and savage Alexander.

You forgot glamour. Glamour is the true endgame.

[Eul]

I already put this debate in pvp way before, but people like "uhh...k? Just ask the AST to diurnal". AST's noct is the best for pvp but it's really a worse if paired with SCH. Aspected Helios overwrite critical Adloquium? WTF lol.

[KyahAlmasy]

I dont want to derail your topic too much, but these conditions you provided don't necessarily mean it is endgame. Titan EX requires coordination, memorization of mechanics and albeit, now a joke of a DPS check. It meets your criteria, yet we can agree it is not endgame. Ravana EX may be considered some mid-core content at this point, but due to extreme outgearing and date of content release, I would not call it endgame. Truly the only endgame is at this point is Thordan EX (this title is waning daily) and savage Alexander.

Titan is level 50 content, doing it as a level 60, you can literally skip almost all of the mechanics. You don't really need to study, or try to reach any dps checks. This isn't the same as Ravana. You mess up a single mechanic in Ravana and you'll wipe the party. Ravana is still relevant, and considered end game because it does require coordination and focus to complete. 8 man story content would be something I'd consider mid-core. Try to duty finder a Ravana and see how that pans out.

[HiredMuscle]

Having a party with 2 AST requires more communication than any other healer combo. Especially as mentioned with cards, I personally type out when an enhanced or extended card is out in hopes the other AST sees it and not override with an expanded card. My only beef is with sects, everyone loves diurnal in DF, yet I've seen occasions where no regens are going out and that AST is only using it for the SS increase in cleric. Meanwhile I'm in Noct. having to use a bit more mp healing, not a detriment, just annoying.

[KeluBehemoth]

Was looking forward to an engaging relic quest like 2.0

Have not played since the first week Anima was released.

Have completely given up on this game. Not throwing my money at it any more.

I want the raids made easier. Not 24 man easy or Alex normal easy but easier. Ravana EX difficulty. I dont raid because %90 of the player base can\\'t even complete core content (Ravana EX).

I am not doing a static bashing my head into a boss for months because 1 or 2 guys can't get it or people get fatigued.

The difficulty curve is stupid.

Nothing in this game encourages people to learn their job or boss mechanics (Yay top end time gear for clearing dungeons you can do blind).

I give up on the community and this game. The devs could very easily encourage all these scrubs to get better but then they're scared they would lose their subs.

[Hellboy-sa]

Double regen is terrible and leads to nothing but overhealing. Any AST that picks diurnal sect when with a white mage or another diurnal ast is bad and should feel bad (though in the case of the latter, both are at fault as either of them could change).

making it easier for 1 of the 2 healers to DPS is not good enough reason i see here?

or even both if HOTs are strong

[Hellboy-sa]

Was looking forward to an engaging relic quest like 2.0

Have not played since the first week Anima was released.

Have completely given up on this game. Not throwing my money at it any more.

I want the raids made easier. Not 24 man easy or Alex normal easy but easier. Ravana EX difficulty. I dont raid because %90 of the player base can\\'t even complete core content (Ravana EX).

I am not doing a static bashing my head into a boss for months because 1 or 2 guys can't get it or people get fatigued.

The difficulty curve is stupid.

Nothing in this game encourages people to learn their job or boss mechanics (Yay top end time gear for clearing dungeons you can do blind).

I give up on the community and this game. The devs could very easily encourage all these scrubs to get better but then they're scared they would lose their subs.

it takes 2 - 3 hours of practice to kill ravana EX it will take even less now since echo has been put there now

you dont need even a static to beat it just put a party finder you will find both ppl willing to practice and ppl willing to help you clear it