The Current Ecnomical State of ARR

[Sardonia]

When 3 star crafting came out they should of either removed the red script cap or lowered the amount of scripts needed for the 180 gear. Granted I can craft any of the 2 star items but it gets extremely costly when melding. Granted all 180 will not get you to 3 star but the MH, OH and perhaps body with other pieces can greatly help and save you some gil in the long run without spending millions on overmelding. At least I have all the accessories and belt overmelded which greatly helps since you can use it on any crafting class

[Sollux]

When 3 star crafting came out they should of either removed the red script cap or lowered the amount of scripts needed for the 180 gear.

I completely agree with this statement, and don't know why they haven't at the very least increased the Red Scrip cap.

Granted all 180 will not get you to 3 star but the MH, OH and perhaps body with other pieces can greatly help and save you some gil in the long run without spending millions on overmelding. At least I have all the accessories and belt overmelded which greatly helps since you can use it on any crafting class

Actually, it will. With full i180 including the new i180 OH, white accessories with minimal Tier IV overmelds, and HQ Seafood Stew you CAN reach 3* capabilities.

Source: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/TB9K

I put this together quickly and it could probably be cheaper, but this build only requires 4 29% Tier IV overmelds and a single 16% Tier IV overmeld. I even planned for it to have enough CP for Rath's rotation. If you have all your accessories capped and every i180 piece then you have the ability to Craft 3*.

[Blitzace]

And thats why i don't bother with crafting to much. I would like a set for all crafts, not one set per craft. We already are limited SEVERELY on the space we have as it is. No way i'm going through the hassle of switching it every time i want to make something else. Yuck

[Sida]

Being able to craft the 2* even with a gear for freshly leveled crafter doesn't help much when the materials required are gated behind the favor system, or obnoxiously high amount of gil.

[BruceBear]

I think people are exaggerating how hard it is to do endgame crafting, both from a rotation/skill point of view and in terms of the investment. I won't even talk about how easy it is to level crafting classes to level 60.

Let's start off with the gear. So many people look at the whole favor system and say screw it... I'm not spending days repeating the same crap over and over again and might not even be able to HQ the stuff in the end. I have some sympathy if your goal is to gear all crafting classes with endgame gears, which I have done and seen how much of a soul drain it can be. However, the fact is that you don't need to do that for every crafting class, since only the specialist classes really matter in the current system. Suddenly, the amount of gears you really need to get does down from 8 classes worth to just 3! That is a bargain? no? In fact, it's the people who have got all crafting classes at item level 170+ that really have the right to complain. They made all these extra investment and these don't pay off under the specialist system.

Now onto the mythical gil sink: these goddamn melds! I question if melds are that costly compared to how much money you can make if you put in that investment. You also don't need 'the perfect melds': you do not need a Command IV in every single slot of your gears. Generally when people complain about melds costing too much, it's because they are spending that extra mil to get that one more precious point of control or CP, which means absolutely nothing in practice but everything psychologically. We need to compromise a bit on the quality of the melds considering one less control isn't going to make or break. And really, with airships bringing back all materias like candies they are not that expensive.

The cost side of gearing crafters are justified by the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS you will end up making if you spend the time to use your investment. These costs are truly pitiful compared to the rewards. This is especially true on servers where there just isn't a large absolute number of endgame crafters. I am not talking about the ratio of crafters to the server size - just the absolute number, since more crafters mean more undercutting and a less concentrated supplier market. One or two people can more easily decide the price, ten of them cannot. So, if crap on your server are too expensive, the economically viable best solution is to start crafting, since your competition is abysmal.

Crafting rotations are dead easy with the internet being a ready source of guidance. Generally if you are patient and not trigger happy, and think about what you are doing each step of the way you cannot go wrong. Sometimes RNG comes into play and screws you, but generally that's because you cut too many corners the vast majority of the time that happens. have more HQ mats to start with and even really bad RNG won't be enough to stop you from HQing anything.

Really - I am surprised that everyone and their granmas are not churning out these 3 stars.

[konage]

Agreed with everything you said.

[ToasterMan]

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Can you explain how you got all of your crafters to 60? I'm almost done with getting all of the classes to 50 and I'm ready to make the next jump to 60 but it looks really difficult.

[Alien_Gamer]

Can you explain how you got all of your crafters to 60? I'm almost done with getting all of the classes to 50 and I'm ready to make the next jump to 60 but it looks really difficult.

If you're an omnicrafter then you can do what I'm doing. Its a slow method but it works beautifully.

The first part of what I do is I create an HQ stack of the highest 2-3 mats on that craft that I'm able to craft. For a lv 50 wvr that would be things like your felt, jute and twinthread. Keep making new stacks of higher level mats as you level to keep earning xp. Do that for all your classes and keep them around the same level for a decent stock of mats on hand too.

The second part is to use those stacks of mats and turn in some leves until 55 or so. After 55 you can start using the collectible system for blue scrips, and later red scrips.

its time consuming, but its simple and it works...at least for me.