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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    You talking about the emperor's new sandals? It does not actually remove your footwear it still leaves a default sandal on your character's feet.



    Ah ok thx for the clarification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Actually, there's a more fundamental reason for the sandals when barefooted. The shape of your foot. The default 'shoe' is done that way because the height of the character is based on the character's heels. This means that the character models are basically designed around always wearing shoes or boots, even when 'barefooted'. If they changed the mesh, your character would magically have heels which didn't touch the ground, or rather deformed feet to accommodate the heel position.
    Already been stated couple times in some other threads also that people that really wanted a true barefoot option would take the trade off of "floating" above the ground in order to have that option available to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Already been stated couple times in some other threads also that people that really wanted a true barefoot option would take the trade off of "floating" above the ground in order to have that option available to them.
    The excuss could be that our characters are to beautiful to touch the ground, especially Roes, Male Highlander's and Au Ra's
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    I wouldn't take that, way too cheap on their part!...

    Please do a good job with the character models Square Enix, if adjusting the height if required then do so, it would be worse seeing floating people around!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    I wouldn't take that, way too cheap on their part!...

    Please do a good job with the character models Square Enix, if adjusting the height if required then do so, it would be worse seeing floating people around!...
    I honestly dont think floating around, at a height equal to the width of the sole of the imposed sandal, would be at all noticeable. I mean, we already float above many surfaces anyway if you take the time to look (very easy with stairs), and a lot of running is sliding on the ground.
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    Were people not wearing shoes in the swimming preview?
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    What if... we just made you shorter by the amount the heel of sandals made? Lower your booty into the ground a tad, maybe just a very slight float to keep your toes from sinking into the cobblestone too much - sort of a comprise from full float and not.

    Of course the slider bar height you picked at creation wouldn't be the height anymore if that's how they calculated things but when you don't wear shoes in real life you also shrink.. so.. its not that magical to expect you'd be smaller xD

    Perhaps combining that with a naked foot model working as a "shoe" to probably define the bottom of the foot we don't have defined since they've never needed to show it before.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 02-17-2017 at 08:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Were people not wearing shoes in the swimming preview?
    They were wearing footwear in the swimming preview but the thread is asking for SE to add a barefoot option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Actually, there's a more fundamental reason for the sandals when barefooted. The shape of your foot. The default 'shoe' is done that way because the height of the character is based on the character's heels. This means that the character models are basically designed around always wearing shoes or boots, even when 'barefooted'. If they changed the mesh, your character would magically have heels which didn't touch the ground, or rather deformed feet to accommodate the heel position.
    This was a theory someone suggested when speculating about possible reasons, and people have been repeating it ever since as though it were actually true. But the really wide variety of different heel heights already in the game clearly prove that it's not. SE is already adjusting for different shoes with different heel heights. This would simply be one more, with a height of 0.

    (I'm pretty sure they take the shortcut of shortening/lengthening your calves to make up the difference rather than changing your overall height as would happen in real life, but that would work here, too. So what if our calves end up an eighth of an inch longer when barefoot than they are with flats, a half inch longer than with the default sandals, and a couple inches longer than they do with heeled shoes? All the rest of that variation is already there.)
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 02-17-2017 at 07:08 AM.

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    So I used to think the "no bare feet" thing was because the character models were incapable of displaying flat feet (so a barefoot character would be walking around on the balls of their feet for some reason), but no.. there are several pieces of foot equipment that flatten out your feet. So it's really just a matter of taking that standing pose and lowering the character's z-position by a few pixels to put them on the floor. The sound effects for bare feet walking on things is definitely a wrinkle since it'd be strange to have a barefoot character clacking around on stone or something like that when none of the character races have hooves.

    Still I think it'd be a worthwhile thing for them to work on, especially with Stormblood's emphasis on underwater activities. Wearing sandals while doing that is weird.
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