Job Quests...please make them mandatory

[bardaboo]

Honestly.... do we really need MORE babysitting in this game? This whole game is very linear and obvious. The guy either doesn't care, hates quests, has no friends in the game, or is extremely ignorant. At least this way we get a good laugh out of it. I'd rather it be completely obvious that someone doesn't know what they're doing, as opposed to "boy, that monk is doing really poop damage"

[ToniRomo]

I ran into the same twice this week in 50 dungeons. Both people did not know about jobs.

Also saw a level 60 archer while PVPing.

[The_Last_Dragoon]

That person might not even have known that jobs exist. In-game there is very little information about jobs, and nothing at all to indicate how important they are.
The quest that points you to your job-trainer is easy to miss or ignore, and then you never find out about jobs.

This is completely untrue since upon completing your lv30 class quest, they should have seen a red quest marker atop their quest giver. Even if they had "thought" it was a lv35 that it would unlock, they still should have been able to look at it and see the requirement for lv15 in another class. The only way this makes sense that they didn't "know" is if they didn't know they had to go back and do class quests at all whenever they gained 5 levels, and instead relied on the fact that you can literally be carried through the game now.

It also doesn't make sense that they got all the way to the Praetorium since I'm sure at least a few players pointed out during Brayflox's Longstop and onward that he needs to get his job crystal. The only real explanation is that he FATE grinded outside of the absolutely necessary dungeons and then either didn't understand when people tried to inform him about the job system or simply didn't care.

[bardaboo]

How about this. Any gear that a lvl 50 can wear is job specific. No more pgl/mnk stuff. And allow our retainers to equip job stones

[Zavius_Firerave]

I actually have a few people in my FC who asked if they can stay as archer and not be a bard or stay as a lancer and not be a dragoon. I must say the game indeed does a poor job at explaining the job mechanic. I'm sure most people learn about the job system from the internet and not in game. Heck, they don't even tell you that you need to level another job to unlock the job crystal quest. Instead, you have to go online and look up wikis and stuff. This is not about "hand holding", this is about putting proper tutorial in the game.

[Rufalus]

Heck, they don't even tell you that you need to level another job to unlock the job crystal quest. Instead, you have to go online and look up wikis and stuff. This is not about "hand holding", this is about putting proper tutorial in the game.

I learned in-game. You finish your last class quest, a job quest pop up nearby, if you don't yet fulfill the requirements when you click on it then it tells you that you need X class at Y level to process.
People who get into a muddle are usual ones who just ignore quest icons. Since I do every quest, I never needed to google which quests unlock aether currents in Heavensward and things like that.

[Zojha]

Since I do every quest, I never needed to google which quests unlock aether currents in Heavensward and things like that.

Heh. I confess, I had to look those up myself. In fact, I even looked up the job quests beforehand as well as the ones for the challenge log etc. I've never been a fan of questing in MMOs, since it always boils down to simple fetch/kill quests, usually with a good amount of walking involved. It's incredibly rare that you get more than one way to solve a quest or similar, so I tend to get bored by them.

[ruskie]

Also saw a level 60 archer while PVPing.

PVP is different game - people do that for cross class skills and stuff. You can see classes in PVP often.

[Zavius_Firerave]

Oh, really?

Must have missed that.

[TaleraRistain]

I guess it's just me that see them gold ! above people's head and gets the need to inverstigae them.

i could swear that the ACN guild leader gave me the SMN quest which once i was done gave me SCH after i could be wrong.

well after lvl 50 the quests are every 2 levels but i'm just spilting hairs.

SE should really display the skills as blacked out with a tooltip of quest required in the trats and ablities

The icon is red if you haven't done the levels in the cross-class, though, and you don't see what class you need until you click on it. I think there should be a quest that is gold that explains the requirements a bit better. This game is a little vague with explaining the issue with quests you haven't hit the requirements for yet.