December 2011 is the end

[Ilethius]

Were no longer in beta anymore we are now rolled back to the planning stages while SE work on v2.0, the biggest issue for me is we are going to have to put up with the laggy server, clunky UI and inbalanced combat for another year. I also doubt that moogle houses, linkshell administration and moogle mail wont appear until v2.0 either (I would have to re-check the updates for the next year to confirm that). Although SE hasnt abandoned us it really does feel like they have pinned all the hopes on the v2.0 release so I can see things that are planned in the next few months might be put on hold or not even implemented at all on the current version.

The future of this game is looking brighter it is just unfortunate that its going to drag its feet kicking and screaming until we get to v2.0.

[zaviermhigo]

God this thread is full of dumb. People who say SE doesn't need our money, do not understand how a business works, SE pays over 1million dollars for 250 workers combined salary, if FFXIV was its own company it would be operating at a loss, and not for any good reasons like other business do. XIV isn't its own company but instead its a portion of SE, even though SE makes money off of rpgs, eidos games, and such, it would like XIV to pay for itself. At this rate its not, its costing them more and more, the rest of SE shouldn't have to take the fall for the game. That's typically not the way gaming studios the size of SE operate, if SWTOR sucks, the rest of EA mainly made up by EA sports shouldn't take the fall for it, they should of been able to make enough money as an mmo to take care of operating costs, salaries for devs and such which is techincally operating costs, but I don't know how smart people are on the forums, the mmo should also make a profit for them after this.

XIV can't take care of its own operating cost, XIV can't pay the salaries for the people who work on it. XIV can't make a profit. To make a profit they will need to charge for the game. The worst part is they didn't charge this first year or make any money, so now they have to make 2.0 with no revenue being generated for this game outside of what people bought the game for. Most people playing right now bought the game for under $25 bucks (i bought CE for 80 so don't talk to me). (now SE prob got close to full wholesale price for all xiv copies, if you bought yours for cheap, the person/place you bought it from probably took a loss.)

Those of you asking SE to continue to fix the game without willing to pay for the game must not know much about how business/accounting in general is conducted. And aside from that get rid of your gimme gimme attitude before you enter the real world, people hate that entitled attitude.

[Estellios]

Um Solfleur, Ancient magic is awesome now. As in the damage it does is absolutely phenomenal. I actually use them now. All the stat changes made CNJ good at nuking like it should have been able to.

You also still gain MP while moving. What they changed is that now while standing still the amount of MP you recover goes up gradually and drastically. Moving or performing actions resets the recovery rate to the base value.

Please actually try the game before you complain about something.

[Answa]

Another user made a forum post that had a "like" this if you are going to pay and another "like" this if you are not going to pay. I checked it a moment ago and it was at 600+ will pay and 200+ will not pay so it is basically sitting at a 1 out of 3 players will not continue to pay as of the writing of this article.

The results are misleading. This forum is heavily skewed towards people who are fervent players of the game. My guess is many people who still log on and play occasionally or even frequently do not post here. Thus, I really see this as 1 out of 3 players that still care will not pay.

The results do not account for the vast number of people who still log on but do not care enough to post. They also do not account for the vast number of people who quit long ago, and now will have no incentive to return (except for perhaps a very short time periodically to see any progress)

In other words, the forums put forward the voice of the very vocal minority, and do not reflect the majority of players.

Consider the following:

1. The very small current player base, which is propped up by free service
2. The forth coming premiere triple A titles
3. The road map that clues potential new subs into the fact that this game is essentially not going to massively change until 2013

These factors all lead me to believe that those choosing to subscribe through out 2012 will be very alone in the game.

I wish the game success, but I see this move as another in a long series of SE blunders. I understand they would like to start seeing a revenue stream from the game and do not wish to provide free services for another entire year, however, I can hardly fathom how saying the current title is 50% complete, stating that they would not charge until the game was "ready", and then announcing they were going to charge in December 2011, while putting out a road map to "readiness" showing 2013, is staying true to the course.

There have been many comments about the cost vs. people's budgets. I agree with most that the monthly service fee is not the issue, it is the principal behind it that is the issue. SE has exhausted all their personal currency with me, and these recent announcements just reiterate how that personal currency has been squandered.

Another user commented that the commercials for needy 3rd world children could not cause him/her to donate, so they certainly were not going to fund ongoing development of a game for a multi-national corporation.

I could not agree more. The company has other revenue streams, other IPs, and this is merely a money grab.

Ultimately, you can take the "those that won't pay" from the other forum post and multiply it by 10x. You can also take the "those that will pay" and subtract at least a third, because something will come up, a new title will come out, any number of circumstances will occur that change their mind.

This is now officially a sinking ship, until v2.0 is released.

I'll check it out when that happens, until then, I bid you farewell, if for no other reason then I do not anticipate there being many people left to play with after December, making the relative cost vs. benefit untenable.

kbai (10 char....)

[Vahzl]

I believe my whole LS is committing to the "less than the cost of a single meal" monthly fee.

I am not 100% happy about it costing me so much, as personally I think €13 is too much for any monthly fee, €6 would be right on the money for the game as it stands, but meh, I am really enjoying it right now, and feel it is ready to be paid for, and whenever im playing an MMo, I tend not to buy other games so I suppose it's an investment.

[Answa]

I believe my whole LS is committing to the "less than the cost of a single meal" monthly fee.

I am not 100% happy about it costing me so much, as personally I think €13 is too much for any monthly fee, €6 would be right on the money for the game as it stands, but meh, I am really enjoying it right now, and feel it is ready to be paid for, and whenever im playing an MMo, I tend not to buy other games so I suppose it's an investment.

I dunno where people got this figure, but people are claiming it'll be 999 crysta. ~$(Euro)9.99

[Vahzl]

I dunno where people got this figure, but people are claiming it'll be 999 crysta. ~$(Euro)9.99

I spoke to someone in Account Management 3 days ago:

We are sorry to hear you have taken such a long to find the payment options.

The cost for Final Fantasy XIV is ?12.99 for a period of 30 days including a single character. Also additional playable characters will be ?3.00 per service.

Please bear in mind the 30 day free trial for Final Fatasy XIV has been extended until further notice. During this time frame playable characters & retainers linked to the account will be free of charge. Billing will only start at the end of that period.

Do not hesitate to contact us again if you need more information.

Kind regards,

Direct quote from the mail response they sent me (which is in euros)

[Answa]

I spoke to someone in Account Management 3 days ago:



Direct quote from the mail response they sent me (which is in euros)

Alrighty. As I said, people were claiming this was true. Thanks for the source. ^^

[Menes]

The OP said 200 out of 600 = 1/3. Teakwood said 200 out of 800 = 1/4. Lamentor said 200 out of 600 = 1/4. I can't stop laughing.

[whoopeeragon]

-cleared-

I feel like such an idiot. I read that as 200 and 600, not 200 out of 600. >.<

Exams are getting to me. -yells out in frustration-