Thread: 3.2 "Mystery" boss

Originally Posted by Fynlar

Because Ravana and Bismarck didn't have that, nope.

Totally original.

Kinda feels like potential ring-out encounters are the only sort of fights they know how to make anymore.

Yeah that was the only sort of gimmick I can see between the three primals, but there are some distinctions

• Ravana takes more from Leviathan then Titan, considering that there are walls that prevent ring-outs at the beginning. He also takes a page form Ifrit's book during one of his Liberation attacks. (And Pillars of Heaven seems closer to the analogue to Leviathan's slam than it is to Landslide)
• Bismarck by contrast is definitely closer to Titan due to having an add with a Landslidesque attack but also seems to take elements from Leviathan as well (Beastmen adds, bubbles)

Also outside of primals, the only "Ring out" fights were in Ampador Keep, Gubal (maybe) and Neverreap. Counting the instant death barriers, those are pretty much exclusive to T5, T9, and T13 (and even then Thordian and Bahamut are the only Primals with that mechanic).

Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

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I don't like the mechanic myself because it feels like a cheap way to design a hard fight. Oh, you fell off, too bad, restart the boss. There's little chance of recovery if a tank or healer is the one to take the fall, and then you have the people who never figure out how the mechanics work so they keep falling off, and then the people who always cry lag. I know it's legitimate sometimes, but most of the times I doubt it. Back when I played on US servers I saw people with sub-100 ping say that, when I was rolling with 300. >_> If you have constant lag, memorize the patterns. I dislike insta kill mechanics in general really, but I guess they're a necessary evil.

Originally Posted by Fynlar

You expect waaaaay too much of this playerbase. Plenty of people can't even figure out what order to use their own weaponskills in; what makes you think they are going to memorize the attack patterns of something other than themselves?

I suppose I do, but I do get frustrated when people claim they've seen a specific phase and then die far earlier, several times at that. I don't expect people to be the best, but I expect them to not lie at the very least, I've even had people fall during Bismarck, I wish I was joking but unfortunately I'm not. It's like they ignore the instructions I give at the beginning of the fight which they should already know regardless, since it was a clear party.