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    I'm late to the party; again..

    Lets see if I got this right:

    The sea = Lifestream

    Sun= Hydaelyn

    Moon = Zodiark

    Fourteen = Astral and Umbral Eras? Makes sense if you think about it.

    Children = Some primals. I don't think Bishmark, Moggle and the bug are aware of Hydaelyn like the others. (That needs to be explained after remembering the description by the dragons of what Bahamut and Shiva were). Inversely it could be those who have the Echo and other such direct objects. That seems to be the likely association given Matoyas info about the eye and possible Lore around the Zodiac Braves.

    Shiva's summoning appears much like how Terra transforms into an Esper. Perhaps that's the difference between her and Odin to the other summonings.


    His Doom = Still possibly not primals but likely the Ascians or possibly whatever the dragon is guarding. Likely a metaphor (or something) like the "goblin train" in XI, not an actual Doom Train.
    XIV's version of Pandora's Box?

    Void = Empty space between realities. Thanks unknown origin for Gilgamesh.
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    I've been reading this thread and there is a bunch of great insight and ideas on how the next year will go. I've noticed something though, everyone is assuming the 14 refers to 12 ascians, eldibus (I need to work on learning to spell these names) and Zodiark.

    I figured I'd throw in an idea of my own. What if the twelve referr to 13 Ascians and Eldibus? What I mean is what if the Ascian that represents Gemini isn't 'an' Ascians but a set of twins? Just my two cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotemon View Post
    Children = Some primals. I don't think Bishmark, Moggle and the bug are aware of Hydaelyn like the others.
    I'm not sure I would say they are unaware of Hydaelyn, simply that they don't make as direct a reference to her (the song that is supposed to be from Rav's point of view does mention her). Bismarck...well he never talks to us (unlike pretty much every other primal) so we don't know (and he may be simply more beast like, in that he just operates on urges like the need to feed).

    That said, I'm not sure the Children referenced are the primals, largely because both Igeyorhm and Tiamat talk about how they are creations of the mortal races - the Ascian calls them "the embodiment of mortal will - of mortal desire" while Tiamat says "the beings thy kind call gods are but specters of thy mind's creation, given form at great cost to Hydaelyn."

    Not exactly a ringing endorsement of primals in general being original beings sent by Hydaelyn.

    I think it covers a much broader idea - mortals in general.
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