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  1. #31
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    Morzy's Avatar
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    Morzone Vandalfo
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77 View Post
    man, now i fear drg will get the shared debuff treatment in 4.0 since it seems like theyre unreplacable at the moment.
    another melee with piercing debuff?
    Yeah Dragon Kick is literally our level 50 skill. To see that become useless from another class, kinda depressing and makes you think what other jobs could lose in a similar situation. Though I can honestly see why DRK would have such a skill. It just annoys me that DRK doesn't also give me my blunt resistance down.
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
    Main job: SCH/MNK
    Raid job: Gathering
    PS5 based. PSN ID: natek_morzy

  2. #32
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    LegoTechnic's Avatar
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Morzy View Post
    Yeah Dragon Kick is literally our level 50 skill. To see that become useless from another class, kinda depressing and makes you think what other jobs could lose in a similar situation. Though I can honestly see why DRK would have such a skill. It just annoys me that DRK doesn't also give me my blunt resistance down.
    What annoys me is that no one else does blunt damage at all, which means there's no chance for party synergy.

    ...Well, unless healers smacking things with staffs and books count. Don't know if they do.
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    Ren Nirin
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    What annoys me is that no one else does blunt damage at all, which means there's no chance for party synergy.

    ...Well, unless healers smacking things with staffs and books count. Don't know if they do.
    Funnily enough, I'm almost certain that books and staffs do count as blunt damage lol. Not sure how helpful this is as a boost to monk raid synergy though
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  4. #34
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nirurin View Post
    Funnily enough, I'm almost certain that books and staffs do count as blunt damage lol. Not sure how helpful this is as a boost to monk raid synergy though
    It's an extra 5 per bookholder assuming they booksmash all the time.
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  5. #35
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    Morzy's Avatar
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    Morzone Vandalfo
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilgung View Post
    There's no raid situation, including AS2, where you'd want to spend a long period of time AoEing on a non-mage. DRG has better oGCD AoE potential than MNK. 200pot/20sec with Gierskogul and 250/120sec with Dragonfire Dive. Compared to 220pot/30sec with Elixir Field.
    Alright. It's not very fair to compare MNK to other classes when you don't add in the damage buffs MNK gets.

    Elixir field is 330 buffed
    Howling Fist is 255 buffed

    Idk about DRG
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
    Main job: SCH/MNK
    Raid job: Gathering
    PS5 based. PSN ID: natek_morzy

  6. #36
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    Morzy's Avatar
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    Morzone Vandalfo
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    What annoys me is that no one else does blunt damage at all, which means there's no chance for party synergy.

    ...Well, unless healers smacking things with staffs and books count. Don't know if they do.
    I never actually thought of book smacking. Uhm, lol.
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
    Main job: SCH/MNK
    Raid job: Gathering
    PS5 based. PSN ID: natek_morzy

  7. #37
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Morzy View Post
    Alright. It's not very fair to compare MNK to other classes when you don't add in the damage buffs MNK gets.

    Elixir field is 330 buffed
    Howling Fist is 255 buffed

    Idk about DRG
    DRG gets +15% from HT making it

    230 for Geirskogul
    and 287.5 for Dragonfire Dive.

    This is however not considering that you cant built up BotD for geirskogul unless you do a single target rotation, so its kinda moot, leaving only Dragonfire Dive which due to its long CD doesnt account for much.
    This makes DRG actually the worst melee when it comes to off GCD AOE options by far (even behind NIN due to Doton/Katon).This is ok however since its on GCD options (doomspike) are so good.
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