Question about PC/Keyboard controls

[Kabzy]

I would definitely play around a lot with keybinds. Similar to Dayala, I also gave up the 7-0 keys and use QERTFG to complete my 12 buttons for the hotbar. It just makes it that much easier to perform all actions while still keeping one finger on WASD ready to dodge stuff.

One thing I could not get used to, however, was clicking CTRL/Shift/Alt for other hotbars, so I actually purchased the Razer Mamba mouse. It very conveniently only has 2 large buttons on the side which I can click with my thumb. I bound those buttons to be Shift/Alt, so I don't have to stretch my hands pressing them on the keyboard with my pinky.

I would also recommend keeping the party list close to your character so while you're clicking and looking at the party list, your character is still in good vision of you. It will feel awkward at first but try sticking to it and you'll most likely never go back. I couldn't even do WASD movements when I started out but now I could never go back to pad. ;D

[whiskeybravo]

So, my question is: Do any controller players know a better way of going about doing this? Or am I screwed in Alliances without a mouse and keyboard?

It's better to ignore them xD

Seriously, though. One of my bigger problems with the controllers - targeting sucks.

If you don't want to use target scrolling (I only did this in a2s as driver) the only advice I can give is to customize the target filter so you can target everything. I have mine split so when weapon is drawn my target is limited to enemies, then with sheathed weapon I can target non-party members and other things. It still gets kinda annoying (cuz you draw your weapon when you go to cast, so that means you can only select one person at a time). But it's equally annoying to have to scroll through 1000 things to find the right enemy or whatever.. At the end of the day I just don't worry about alliance member lol

Also, you could hook a mouse up to the ps4 if you wanted. I have a wireless keyboard with a touchpad on it that works as mouse, though not well enough to use it other than random selections like the above and moving around abilities on my fancy hotbars

[Februs]

Oh hmm, I've just read that L1+ left/right will cycle through alliance members by default. See if that works too.

Brilliant. Thank you very much. I will give this a try.

It does. That's how I do it. But it's a pain in the butt.

Probably, yes, but it can't be worse than the virtual mouse. Controller targeting will always be slower than a mouse, even within your own party. If I really wanted to up my healing game I'd plug in a mouse and keyboard... but that's a lot of work for just one job. I actually prefer the controller for my Dps/Tanks. So, I'm not willing to trade it for the sake of one job.

[Februs]

It's equally annoying to have to scroll through 1000 things to find the right enemy or whatever.

I actually prefer playing with a controller for my Tanks and Drg, because I like the ease of use buttons for my hotbar rotations.

Targeting does get a little iffy in tightly packed areas (like PvP, for example) but I usually get around this pretty well by circle jerking my targets. Your targeting should automatically target whatever is closest to the centre of your screen, so if you aim well with your screen (3rd person shooter experience can come in handy here) you usually get the target you want, or near enough that a quick rotate left or right will get you the one you wanted. Takes some practice. PvP trained my fingers to circle jerk through targets pretty quickly though.

[416to305]

Anyone that says targeting with the controller is hard, clearly hasn't used the controller enough. I have zero problems ever targeting, it's pretty simple. From anywhere, D-Pad up and down cycles your party list starting from whoever is selected. Need to heal the tank fast, hit circle to make sure no one is selected then down twice to select them. To target enemies they have to be on screen, and then you hold R1 and cycle them with L1, or hold L1 and cycle with L2. If you want to select one from the enemity list, hold down L1 and press up and down on the D-Pad same as targeting the party. I completely prefer the controller, a mouse just lets you be a bit faster since you can quickly click exactly who you want or hover over a buff/debuff to see what it means.

I don't think hooking up a mouse is as efficient since you still have to let go of the controller to use the mouse. The touchpad on the PS4 works perfectly though so really not a big issue. I think my hardest thing with the keyboard is not moving as much. Like controller your thumb is constantly on the analog stick so it doesn't matter what you're doing you can easily be moving without having to return your hand to the WASD keys type thing. (Someone earlier mentioned keeping 1 finger on the W to return quickly, but still can't match the controller).

[Tremara]

Hm, it also depends what type of keyboard/mouse you will be using. As for example I couldn't play anymore without my Logitech G600 (it's a mouse ). On the side are keys for 1-0 (or whatever you bind) and I can all reach more or less comfortable with my thumb. With my left hand I use WASD QERT FG YXCV Alt Control Shift Tab Tilde Space (German key layout).