War DPS rotation question

[AlexiIvaniskavich]

Would the slow build be better for 8 man content? That double Crit, triple fell cleave might rip hate early in a fight. [but it looks so pretty]

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did i just say slow the deeps?? omg

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I am curious to know how much difference the two rotations are at. As I lost the /random role with my best friend, I am a little out of practice due to maining DRK/PLD for raid

[whiskeybravo]

Would the slow build be better for 8 man content? That double Crit, triple fell cleave might rip hate early in a fight. [but it looks so pretty]

I've had back to back crits for like 7500-7700ish and not had any probs but usually I have a solid tank partner, in random DF 8-mans I usually end up main tanking anyways.

[AlexiIvaniskavich]

I've had back to back crits for like 7500-7700ish and not had any probs but usually I have a solid tank partner, in random DF 8-mans I usually end up main tanking anyways.

I think my issues has been that I need to rework my pattern. My co-tank has double critted and pulled off me exactly 3 times since Alex released (twice when i was PLD). First time I just wasn't ready for that pure fury. Second time, I had skipped my hate combo several times in favor of the Goring>RA>RA. I just thought I had enough hate before it happened. Third time I was a DRK, had gained the initial hate, figured I was well in the clear, dropped grit and went with a straight set of soul eater/delrium combos. It only took a slight tweak to fix that though.

My initial DRK rotation doesn't typically have a ton of hate combo spamming, which is why i was curious about the effects of an early triple fell cleave.

[whiskeybravo]

I see. Yea it does feel a little wasted in that regard.

@ Alexi - I haven't ran against another war while on drk/pld (my pld would prolly struggle since only 180 weapon), but when I war the only time it's really ever an issue is if I butchers block under berserk. *Correction* I was thinking about final coil days, t11 I would open with SE>BB and that first BB would always rip off my pld buddy.

[Brian_]

Losing the small amount of time on the opening is not a big deal unless it lines up poorly with a boss immunity window or costs you a Berserk usage during the fight. So your opener might be perfectly fine. And, the double FC portion of a manual stack building opener should still line up with Battle Litany. The only way the third would line up is if you use the pre-infuriate triple FC opener but it would be a tight fit.

And of course you parse higher on a shot duration parse. You are cutting off the low DPS manual stack building phase.

[Bashum]

Yeah, so for thordan it may not make a lot of difference. it's just a choice of un-berserked stack building at the end, or beginning of the first phase before he goes un-targetable.

[KinSlayer009]

This is my war opener
Watch "FFXIV War High burst opener / Rotation" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/MKoJkUtlNuk

[SpookyGhost]

Losing the small amount of time on the opening is not a big deal unless it lines up poorly with a boss immunity window or costs you a Berserk usage during the fight. So your opener might be perfectly fine. And, the double FC portion of a manual stack building opener should still line up with Battle Litany. The only way the third would line up is if you use the pre-infuriate triple FC opener but it would be a tight fit.

It's not a question of "will my FCs hit during BL/TA?" it's "how many buffed GCDs can I fit within BL/TA?". It's minimal gains, though, so it really doesn't matter - you can easily use OP's opener in Thordan and still parse perfectly fine. It's way more important what you do for the rest of the fight than what you do in your opener. I'd recommend parsing for 3-4 min and seeing what works best for you, and then try and see which works best in actual content like Thordan (results may vary).

This is my war opener
Watch "FFXIV War High burst opener / Rotation" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/MKoJkUtlNuk

This opener is similar to one I posted, though I pop Vengeance -> RI before the pull to get them on CD sooner and Fracture before my 2x FC (to get the 5 Abandon snapshot on top of all the other buffs rolling). I'm not actually 100% sure if my Fracture usage is better though, it aligns weirdly if I don't have Minuet.

[Anienai]

This is my war opener
Watch "FFXIV War High burst opener / Rotation" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/MKoJkUtlNuk

What is the name of the great axe you are using?

[Ashkendor]

What is the name of the great axe you are using?

Looks like Axe of the Heavens from Thordan EX.