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    Phoenicia's Avatar
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    The grading doesn't have to measure DPS or set DPS thresholds tbh. Even if it were on DPS. Higher encounter DPS can ONLY happen through good play. It doesn't matter if you do 4k DPS in 5 seconds (Which is easy when you crit Fire IV or Fell Cleave twice in a row) and then die. Because 20k damage over 3 minutes is 110-ish DPS, which is bad in all considerations.

    I said it before, individual grading should be based on the major but simplistic things. For example:

    DPS: Positive grades: Total Damage. Encounter DPS average. Party damage contribution (aka Trick attack and Foe). Maybe include eHPS?
    Negative grades: Damage taken. Deaths.

    Healers: Positive: Total Damage. Total Effective Healing. Party Damage Contribution. Total Shielding and/or damage mitigation. Party raises.
    Negative: Party deaths. Own deaths. Over healing.

    Tanks: Positive: Total Damage/Enmity. Mitigated Damage. Total Effective Healing. Party Damage Contribution. Party damage mitigation.
    Negative: Party deaths. Own deaths.

    Group Overall: +ve: Clear time. -ve: Wipes.

    Voila, we have a grading system that isn't based on DPS. It promotes teamwork since the others' performance will result in better grades for you. And it also promotes good individual play.

    Rewards can be anything that doesn't "hurt" not to have. Tomestones/Experience bonuses so you worry less about running roulettes? Nice. Tokens so you can get vanity? Not bad. As long as it doesn't hurt the game echo system.
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    Last edited by Phoenicia; 01-04-2016 at 04:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicia View Post
    The grading doesn't have to measure DPS or set DPS thresholds tbh. Even if it were on DPS. Higher encounter DPS can ONLY happen through good play. It doesn't matter if you do 4k DPS in 5 seconds (Which is easy when you crit Fire IV or Fell Cleave twice in a row) and then die. Because 20k damage over 3 minutes is 110-ish DPS, which is bad in all considerations.

    I said it before, individual grading should be based on the major but simplistic things. For example:

    DPS: Positive grades: Total Damage. Encounter DPS average. Party damage contribution (aka Trick attack and Foe). Maybe include eHPS?
    Negative grades: Damage taken. Deaths.

    Healers: Positive: Total Damage. Total Effective Healing. Party Damage Contribution. Total Shielding and/or damage mitigation. Party raises.
    Negative: Party deaths. Own deaths. Over healing.

    Tanks: Positive: Total Damage/Enmity. Mitigated Damage. Total Effective Healing. Party Damage Contribution. Party damage mitigation.
    Negative: Party deaths. Own deaths.

    Group Overall: +ve: Clear time. -ve: Wipes.

    Voila, we have a grading system that isn't based on DPS. It promotes teamwork since the others' performance will result in better grades for you. And it also promotes good individual play.

    Rewards can be anything that doesn't "hurt" not to have. Tomestones/Experience bonuses so you worry less about running roulettes? Nice. Tokens so you can get vanity? Not bad. As long as it doesn't hurt the game echo system.
    This I can get behind


    This idea to me promotes learning vs dps maxing

    Max dps mostly comes from gear but also mastering content.
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    Last edited by Azazua_azura; 01-04-2016 at 05:45 AM.

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    Delmontyb's Avatar
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    Brin Zalazar
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicia View Post
    The grading doesn't have to measure DPS or set DPS thresholds tbh. Even if it were on DPS. Higher encounter DPS can ONLY happen through good play. It doesn't matter if you do 4k DPS in 5 seconds (Which is easy when you crit Fire IV or Fell Cleave twice in a row) and then die. Because 20k damage over 3 minutes is 110-ish DPS, which is bad in all considerations.
    Fantastic, better said then me. It doesn't all have to be focused on DPS, I love how you broke it down in positive and negative. - Going to add this to the original post - quoted of course.
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