Veteran Reward: Third retainer

[Colorful]

No.

There should be no veteran rewards that give a distinct in game advantage. Retainers are despite the common misconception very powerful gameplay tools not just storage racks.

I'm also against selling them as an additional service for this reason as well.

If they are to ever consider this not paying for a in game advantage all functions aside from storage would need to be removed IMHO.

There's already an advantage we could pay for, those being additional retainers so it makes no difference (6 retainers is slightly crossing that pay to win line tbh, pay for gil at least). Regardless, it makes sense. The longer you've played the game, the more items you'd likely have gathered, no? I don't believe they should put it in the later veteran rewards though, what is it now, 2.5+ years. Put it around 150 days I guess.

[WellFooled]

No.

There should be no veteran rewards that give a distinct in game advantage. Retainers are despite the common misconception very powerful gameplay tools not just storage racks.

I'm also against selling them as an additional service for this reason as well.

If they are to ever consider this not paying for a in game advantage all functions aside from storage would need to be removed IMHO.

I agree, but if given a choice between paying extra money for storage or getting that same storage as a side effect of the subscription I'm already paying, I choose the lesser of two evils.

I have one retainer set aside to save gear for two of my jobs (pld and mch!) and that retainer has no space left whatsoever and every patch adds at least 20-30 new items (again, just for those two jobs and none of the other eleven battle classes or gathering/crafting classes) that I want to hold onto. I'll take anything I can get to alleviate this storage problem.

[Granyala]

They make MONEY selling more bank space.
They will NOT alleviate inventory clogging.

Mr. Yoshida's statement in regards to making Relic items and Beast tribe currencies actual currencies & Key items reflects that philosophy.

It's shitty design, but as long as people are desperate enough to shell out more money for space it will continue.

Imho it's retarded. Selling more space for RL-$ is okay in F2P titles but ridiculous for a subscription based game.

How badly do you need that first coil armor piece that you haven't glamoured to anything for 15months anyway? I dumped the lot of the stuff I out-leveled except a few key things I liked.

I wouldn't mind more space personally, but I remember my WoW bank never had as much as this game does with no extra retainers.

Unlink the glamor system from items. Take a look at Diablos Transmog system. Once you acquire a piece of armor, the outfit is enabled in your Projection database.

Since WoD WoW has A LOT more space due to the reagent bank, also it is ALOT easier in WoW to create alts for storing crafting stuff.
(To be fair: WoW's crafting has way less items and no HQ/NQ versions of them)

This is 2016 not 1996. Sever hardware isn't that limited anymore and there are A LOT of clever systems out there that could be modified.

[Solarra]

I agree with the people saying a third retainer should have come with the expansion. Sadly, it didn't happen.
Ideally, I'd like everyone to get a third retainer in a future patch but if that's not going to happen, giving one as a veteran reward would be the next best option.

[Azazua_azura]

I think why they charging us is due to ff11 where you played $1 here you can make up to 8 on a server.

Anyway, in personally think instead of extra retainers we get a personal player bank much like the fc bank.

Also why not make wardrobe furniture useable and why not open the gear box w/e thing that we have in inn rooms why now open it to hold all our armor then have retainers more for miscellaneous items, and personal bank for materials

[Andrea]

Honestly speaking I think getting new retainers every expansion would just cover the current problems with items.

I currently own 3 and 2 are filled with just glamour stuff. If they worked out a way I could get rid of the items themselves but still glamour them then there would be no need for additional retainers for expansions/veteran rewards.

Sadly though they are making money from selling retainers so im doubtful it will change any time soon

[SigmaOZ]

Try to be an omni-crafter with only two retainers and you will find out it's nearly impossible if you don't throw away all the unused gear you may want to keep for glamour purposes, even with 6 retainers I don't have enough space to hold everything I want and I definitely hate the space limitation...

I'm not happy to pay for more space but I'm also not willing to part with my hard-gotten gear sets so unless SE remakes the glamour system there's no way to overcome storage problems, I hate the Armory Chest, they force us to have only one gear set per job and I can't stand being forced to use only one appearance at a time.

I want glamours for every single occasion so SE better reworks the whole Armory Chest and the pitiful glamour system!...

I would be willing to fire my extra retainers to teach SE a lesson but will the rest of players do the same!?...

[Kling-Klang]

The space/server limitation/retainer problems suck and they will only get worse the more items they add.
Its not possible that this situation can go on and on like it is right now.

[gzuscry]

Who you are fooling PPL? Only yourselfs. You better accept that glamour system IS designed with cash shop as sole target. All the token currencies as regular items all the baits for fishing all the mats for crafting, everthing is designed to force you towards shelling your money towards extra retainers. Inventory space is the VERY FIRST thing ppl are shelling money for in chash shops if such thing is in MMO. They gone away with ABSOLUTE minimum inventory space you are allowed for free since this subscription based so you can progress through game without hindrance if glamours doesnt concern you and craft bare minimum(i am such person). They will increasy armory with just one row in future to accomodate future jobs, that is what i predict, but it is all you EVER will get for free. I bet they will blatantly RENT extra armory space for cash in near future, and ppl will buy it, they will gob it up since they have been eased mentaly long before with current cash shop policies and assortment.

[Emper]

I would not mind if the proposed Veteran reward retainer only had storage functionality, or was only accessible from the inn room like the armoire if that would help server stress.

I can't speak for everyone, but for me this would simply alleviate storage issues. I don't need additional retainer venture or market board utility.

Thanks everyone for your consideration in this thread and presenting lots of points / counterpoints to the storage issue.