FFXIV is in a Prime Position to Make Some Drastic Changes

[Zojha]

Everyone likes some competition[...]

No. A very firm No. Let me bold it for you: No. And just so it gets through: NO!
Even if it is only me that doesn't like competition, that's enough to make this statement wrong.

PvP games are renown for their horrible community and that's primarily because of their natural competition. Competition means that for every winner, there's at least one loser. No amount of "gitgut", "learning" or whatever can change this fundamental fact of competition. That alone is enough reason to shy away from it. And no, this does in no way funnel "community". In fact, it quickly turns your allies into enemies. Just look at how much people flame their own team in MOBAs. Community? Really? It's the exact opposite.

I, for one, purposely picked a PvE game this time around to avoid the cesspool that a widespread competitive mindset creates, thank you.

[Klamor]

No. A very firm No. Let me bold it for you: No. And just so it gets through: NO!
Even if it is only me that doesn't like competition, that's enough to make this statement wrong.

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I, for one, purposely picked a PvE game this time around to avoid the cesspool that a widespread competitive mindset creates, thank you.

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You may disagree. I'm sorry you feel that way.

[Zojha]

You may disagree. I'm sorry you feel that way.

Why feel sorry for me? Please feel sorry for the losers of competition instead, especially IRL, where competition over ressources causes death, pain and destruction galore.

I'm not the one being worked to literal death.

[Klamor]

Why feel sorry for me? Please feel sorry for the losers of competition instead, especially IRL, where competition over ressources causes death, pain and destruction galore.

I'm not the one being worked to literal death.

I'm not an expert on governmental politics, but this sounds a lot like Communism or Socialism. A society where nobody really competes for anything, and the people are given only what they need. There's no reason to do anything above what is just required to get by, because fuck it; it doesn't matter. That's not any place that I'd like to live. Unfortunately, people die every single day. That's life. To live a life without striving for anything isn't a life I care to live. I enjoy working. I enjoy providing for my family. I enjoy working hard at what I want. If there wasn't anyone competing with me trying to do that exact same thing, why would I have to try at all? As much as it sucks that there's another guy next to me not able to do those things, I'll reach back to help him out if I can. But, I'll never let him surpass me, unless it's on his own merit, and have to hope he'll extend a hand when I need it. Because, that's life.

[Zojha]

That's not any place that I'd like to live.

On the bright side, in most religions, that's actually the place where you go when you die and lived a good life. The notion of "paradise" is characterized by abundance and thus a lack of competition.

So if any of those religions happen to be true by sheer coincidence, all you have to do to avoid such a place is being a jerk. You could learn that from some of the posters around.

That aside, people die every second, yes. The sad fact here is that so many people die needlessly because of competition. For example, delivery companies could easily hire two truck drivers that alternate shifts so one doesn't cause an accident because he's tired and falls asleep mid-drive (Or, allow them some longer sleep-breaks). That alone would save hundreds of lives each year. But it isn't done, unless the law demands it, because it is costly, limits your delivery times and thus, is detrimental to the competitive standing of the company. It's cheaper to just pay compensations whenever it happens. And that's just one fairly harmless example.

[BlatantPyre]

The sad fact here is that so many people die needlessly because of competition. For example, delivery companies could easily hire two truck drivers that alternate shifts so one doesn't cause an accident because he's tired and falls asleep mid-drive (Or, allow them some longer sleep-breaks). That alone would save hundreds of lives each year. But it isn't done, unless the law demands it, because it is costly, limits your delivery times and thus, is detrimental to the competitive standing of the company. It's cheaper to just pay compensations whenever it happens. And that's just one fairly harmless example.

Definitely greed.

[Awful]

Why feel sorry for me? Please feel sorry for the losers of competition instead, especially IRL, where competition over ressources causes death, pain and destruction galore.

I'm not the one being worked to literal death.

I don't know why this was brought up but having competition isn't going to ruin this game honestly they give everyone trophies at the end of the day so everyone goes home happy. Yes it's fine, but for someone like me who does enjoy PvP it's about bringing my friends and FC mates and having a lot of fun, which is why i'm really excited for ranked PvP.

The only real competition was/is Alex Savage which people didn't like because of the appeal/difficulty if it was more rewarding for the time and effort people put in then it would indeed be competition you could look forward too. I welcome 3.2 with the PvP season and new raids it'll give a reason to PvP/raid with my FC again and give players more rewards rather than a "thanks for playing!" sticker at the end of the day.

[BlatantPyre]

No. A very firm No. Let me bold it for you: No. And just so it gets through: NO!
Even if it is only me that doesn't like competition, that's enough to make this statement wrong.

I regret to inform you that, while it isn't just you, those who don't like competition are in the minority. To be clear, Pride wasn't talking about "open-world" PvP, either. I doubt he wants FFXIV to turn into Conan (bleagh). But competition, true competition, does generally add a sense of community. Team building adds to camaraderie, gives us a goal to work towards together, for each other. Right now rewards are truly just for one self. I too prefer a system where I don't have to watch my back just to get a few mats...but Pride is asking for more PvP *content*, not to make the whole thing PvP.

[BlatantPyre]

PvP games are renown for their horrible community and that's primarily because of their natural competition.

I'm also sorry to inform you that it isn't PvP that causes people to be jerks...they simply exist. I bump into them all the time, even in FFXIV, all the time. Competition isn't the source of grumpy people, and adding more competition will not make them worse. They just simply are, and the best we can do is ignore them.

[BlatantPyre]

Competition means that for every winner, there's at least one loser.

That's life, kid. If you can't handle it...you might be in trouble. Btw, if anyone has convinced you of this intentionally, they are doing you harm, not looking out for you. Competition is healthy, it makes us aware of our potential, and where we need to improve to become better. Sometimes even losing can be a good thing.