This is awesome... Why couldn't we have this?

[dinnertime]

I dunno. Whenever 1.0 primals are brought here and there, they seem to have a lot of depth and to think by themselves, rather than by the collective consciousness from their summoners as they are in 2.0. Maybe I'm just biased because I never played 1.0 though.

Honestly, I think they still do have their own consciousness in 2.0, but they never got that much depth, really.
I mean, that 1.0 Titan cutscene is pretty neat but it's still the Titan we know and love in 2.0 which still cares about his children.
In 1.0, Garuda is a Primal hungry for power and destruction and Ifrit tempers innocents as his slaves, and they still the same in 2.0.

[Marxam]

This is awesome... Why couldn't we have this?

Are you talking about the beautiful cut scenes? the fact that the primal's had actual emotions outside of just rage? or how MRD has Jump as a cross class?

[Felis]

Are you talking about the beautiful cut scenes? the fact that the primal's had actual emotions outside of just rage? or how MRD has Jump as a cross class?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laTHafKXMdU

[Shurrikhan]

I have to ask, have you played WoW past the first 10 seconds, and if so, can you explain how it's so different to WoW? Watched yet another video and my impression remains the same as it was prior. WoW with a must slower combat system. The market does not need a system like that, people simply aren't interested in a system where it takes that long to use one ability. Most modern MMO players dislike FFXIV due to it's long GCD and quit without reaching endgame because putting it simply, the gameplay is a bore until you reach max, or near max level. You have a handful of abilities and a few OGCD.

What I personally feel it needs is a combat system that requires actual skill, and no I don't mean TERA, Vindictus, or Black Desert where consist of button spamming (at least the latter two, not sure about TERA at endgame).

(Played 1.x before any real patches came out, and have played WoW since vanilla, skipping only Mists raiding and mythic WoD)

The combat does not differ significantly enough nor align itself enough with WoW for me to give many points of comparison. In most ways it was simply worse, in my opinion. It could have easily taken an alternate step to something rather great rather than its 1.2 streamlining, which I then would have likely considered about equal to whatever period of WoW combat you consider best between now (WoD) and BC. It did not. The combat differed primarily only in that more white attacks (originally things like "Light Slash and Heavy Slash, later replaced by auto-attacks) were required to do any real attack, and the real attacks therefore hit for proportionately more. There were originally more damage types and distribution models (pure circular AoEs, circular progressive cleaves, donut circular AoEs, linear dmg-increased-per-hit AoEs, pure linear AoEs, linear damage-reduced-per-hit AoEs, and so forth), and each 'class' (little more than a weapon, with particular damage models) shared abilities with nearly all others upon learning, such that you had more to pick and choose from. (Open with Pummel, Circle Slash, Brandish, Aura Pulse, Trammel one side, Jarring Blow counter the other, bottleneck and psuedo-kite into Doomspike... maintain heavy on lead mob and do switchbacks behind it as a shield while generating TP for the next burst... all on a Pugilist. That kind of stuff.) Arguably, that's not especially different from any other tab-based MMORPG's combat system. The difference quite simply lied elsewhere, unless you wish to look at other directions Tanaka's combat system easily could have gone in that would prioritize damage-type/form synergy (more loose-arsenal), rather than maintaining key rotations (more fixed even than WoW) as per Yoshida's. That may well have differed. Alas, we'll never know.

[dinnertime]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laTHafKXMdU

People seem to overlook Ramuh (and Shiva if she counts) when it comes to primals having a conscience or emotion. It's just that most of the Primals are very hostile.
Most Primals also never seem to care about their followers, so far the ones who do are Titan, Ramuh, Shiva and Ravana, maybe?

[Enkidoh]

A lot of this issue also stems from the fact that the 1.0 appearances were of the very first summonings of Primals, and thus the citystates at the time knew very little about them (in fact, part of the Path of the Twelve storyline had the player getting deaspected crystals for the beastmen which they knew were being used in summoning rituals, but no one truly appreciated just how dangerous the Primals were, and just regarded the rituals as 'harmless religious ceremonies'. By ARR however, there is no doubt as to the danger Primals pose to Hydaelyn and all who dwell on Her. The ARR storyline is merely reflecting the greater knowledge about them.

[Asmodai]

why can't we have it? Because lot of people love to bash on 1.x and its uniqueness, :/

We cant have i because the vitriol spewed by fanboys, telling people to leave, berating them for pointing out what was obviously wrong with the game filling forums up with praise for crappy game systems. Guess what, the people who were being told to take a hike did instead of sticking it out and you guys suffered for it by losing the game you liked so much.

[Exodus-E]

People seem to overlook Ramuh (and Shiva if she counts) when it comes to primals having a conscience or emotion. It's just that most of the Primals are very hostile.
Most Primals also never seem to care about their followers, so far the ones who do are Titan, Ramuh, Shiva and Ravana, maybe?

Actually most of them kinda do, even if only implicitly through side content (see: Beast Tribe related quests).
It's just that some aren't outspoken about it (I recall Garuda calling the Ixali her children, for instance).

The only ones that didn't seem to care much about their followers are Leviathan (who outright consumed that one Sahagin priest when he became aether) or Bismarck (who's more of a wild beast that consumes anything almost indiscriminately).

[PArcher]

Actually most of them kinda do, even if only implicitly through side content (see: Beast Tribe related quests).
It's just that some aren't outspoken about it (I recall Garuda calling the Ixali her children, for instance).

The only ones that didn't seem to care much about their followers are Leviathan (who outright consumed that one Sahagin priest when he became aether) or Bismarck (who's more of a wild beast that consumes anything almost indiscriminately).

Garuda and Ifrit don't either really.

Both use them for power, nothing more, nothing less. If they were to suddenly stop granting that, they'd become as hated as everything else. Incidentally, the ones they "love" are all fully tempered, so the only way they can lose them is through death.

[RyuRoots]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laTHafKXMdU

That fact that you can only point to one summoned Primal (ignoring for the moment Ysale and Thordan's self-summoning shenanigans) as an example is sort of the point, actually.