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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    No idea who that is....but I wish he'd supervise xiv
    I miss Tanaka's vision. This game, especially the crafting system is way too easy. We need to go back to when crafting was timed, you needed specific parts in specific colors in order to finish a product, and the parts were often harder to synth than their finished products. Back in the day, if you didn't have Leatherworker leveled, good luck making certain Weaver items. As for his battle ideas, boy how I wish that stamina bar would come back. Use provoke once, attack twice, and wait for it to recharge. Leveling is too simple too. We need to bring back his vision of the fatigue system. Level for a while, then be unable to gain more exp at a decent rate.

    In all seriousness, as much as I loved playing 1.0, it had its flaws (just like this game does). There were reasons why people did not enjoy the game. Tanaka was one of those reasons. Personally, instead of him making more MMOs, I'd have loved to see him continue with SE and make more single player games. He worked on games like Secret of Mana, Xenogears, Chrono Cross and many of the single player FF games. It really is a shame that he got fired, I mean left the company entirely.
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    Err not to point this out but...... how did the guy have access to 1.0 server with unreleased titan Cs??

    The Cs doesn't even look like fc1.0 more like some CGI someone made. The lip sync is to perfect for the voice. Which was not the case in ff11 and not all screens was voiced


    Wasn't done but a few discrepancy

    1) company of Heroes is a 2.0 thing they are just a lore reason why 1.0 players didn't fight titan the real reason was due to the tsunami quake in Japan and thought it was in poor taste to release titan and levi

    2) 1.0 used in game graphics for cs. That is high res CGI. So no way that a 1.0 Cs.

    3) if it was released, that would have been player characters. Player characters were not voiced. And why is only the female Midlander voiced??


    4) titans dismemberment sorry the 1.0 graphic where good but not that good. Look at the Cs with merlwyb she shot a guy point blank and no blood spatter the chick hacked titans sum off with blood effects.

    5)look at the lip movement its spot on to the English voice acting. Sorry but no game I played has game graphics that spot on. That near movie quality 1.0 voiced Cs looked nothing to that quality.



    That's someone home made movie they just downloaded one of the many 1.0 vids and edited in.


    If you look up past voids that same miqo'te was in a Cs montage of ff1.0 and it was released yesterday..


    Why would he wait 4 years to post it??
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnaviAnael View Post
    I miss Tanaka's vision. This game, especially the crafting system is way too easy. We need to go back to when crafting was timed, you needed specific parts in specific colors in order to finish a product, and the parts were often harder to synth than their finished products. Back in the day, if you didn't have Leatherworker leveled, good luck making certain Weaver items. As for his battle ideas, boy how I wish that stamina bar would come back. Use provoke once, attack twice, and wait for it to recharge. Leveling is too simple too. We need to bring back his vision of the fatigue system. Level for a while, then be unable to gain more exp at a decent rate.

    In all seriousness, as much as I loved playing 1.0, it had its flaws (just like this game does). There were reasons why people did not enjoy the game. Tanaka was one of those reasons. Personally, instead of him making more MMOs, I'd have loved to see him continue with SE and make more single player games. He worked on games like Secret of Mana, Xenogears, Chrono Cross and many of the single player FF games. It really is a shame that he left the company entirely.
    I thought I stumbled onto a madman, but then I read the rest of your post. I haven't played the game myself, but from the videos of combat (Garuda specifically) that part of the game was lacking, to say the least. A 4 second long GCD (and I thought 2 seconds was long), that stamina system sounds like they ripped it straight out of Dark Souls and Monster Hunter, plopped it in and thought "Yes, this works in a WoW-like MMORPG". Even simple stuff like the copy pasted terrain wasn't due to the game being rushed out (it was already in the debugging stages I believe) but due to Tanaka's ideals that the world should be massive in size, he stated that it was impossible due to "memory data", even though MMOs like Black Desert and ArcheAge do it while looking far better than 1.0. Smaller areas without loading screens would have been the better solution imho.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    Err not to point this out but...... how did the guy have access to 1.0 server with unreleased titan Cs??

    The Cs doesn't even look like fc1.0 more like some CGI someone made. The lip sync is to perfect for the voice. Which was not the case in ff11 and not all screens was voiced
    He's running the server locally, and the cutscene was in the game's files, he swapped it out with another one to get it to play. The "CGI" look is because for one, it is CG, and two, the lighting in the area. 1.0 had better lighting (not artistically better, just speaking technically). As for the voice acting, it's possible they attempted to amp up the quality of some aspects to get players to come back after the initial failure of the game, or they just put special focus on this one as it was an important cutscene.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    A 4 second long GCD (and I thought 2 seconds was long), that stamina system sounds like they ripped it straight out of Dark Souls and Monster Hunter, plopped it in and thought "Yes, this works in a WoW-like MMORPG".
    Well, to be fair, 1.x wasn't originally intended to be a WoW-like MMORPG.

    That came about when Yoshi-P took over and they decided to rebuild it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    Well, to be fair, 1.x wasn't originally intended to be a WoW-like MMORPG.

    That came about when Yoshi-P took over and they decided to rebuild it.
    Intended or not, it did play like WoW but with a longer GCD from what I can see. Too different from FFXI to be considered FFXI, but far, far more similar to WoW than anything else. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    Wow...kinda makes me wish we could reason with these primals. :/
    You reasoned with Ramuh, or did you forget already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    SNIP
    The reason we went/go to each Primal ultimately doesn't matter; because we know what danger a Primal is to the world, we will seek them out and destroy them once we know of their existence and can (at least somewhat) safely fight them (if we're not ambushed).

    Even the Warriors of Darkness are seeking them for the same reason. That should tell you just how dangerous they are. Does't matter how kind they are to their followers or even their enemies, how just their motives are; they sap the land dry of aether, they need to be destroyed.

    As for why each is summoned, you got some wrong.

    Ifrit is just summoned; he has almost ALL the Amal'jaa tempered, and tempered to perpetuate his summoning. Every time they get enough crystals they summon him, for no reason other than his power lust.

    Garuda is similar; she has nearly all Ixal tempered, and they seek to give her power since she has promised them their wings back (which, incidentally, is one she cannot keep. The tempered just do not know that)

    Ramuh was summoned mostly due to the Garleans, as was King Moggle Mog XII, but also due to refugees moving through the area; Moogles and Sylphs scare easily, even when the threat they see isn't as big as they think (the Garleans, yes. The refugees, no) [EDIT: Keep in mind too, we did talk to Ramuh and prove that we are trustworthy after showing him the Crystal of Lightning Frixio gave us. He challenged us to prove it further. He also forbade the Sylphs from summoning him again]

    I'm not actually sure *why* Leviathan was summoned this time; defense of the Spawning Grounds (which the Sahagan took from Limsa in the first place) is plausible, but at the same time the Priest who summoned him was baited by Elidibus, so the real motives become hazy. However, Leviathan just wants to drown everything (tempering and literally with water) so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Regardless of how he treats his followers, he, like Ramuh, needs to be defeated. Sucking the land dry of aether and rendering it a barren wasteland isn't a very good thing.
    Heh, should have been following the story better I guess :P
    Still I like that it isn't so black and white like it seems
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    This is our future. Our story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaperking386 View Post
    idk. I am ok with the current story with you can only beat them with echo and emphasizing them to be only figment of the worshiper imagination.
    Actually, people don't need the Echo in order to defeat a Primal.

    The Company of Heroes managed to defeat Titan before (with plenty of sacrifices), and many Ul'dahn soldiers managed to defeat Ifrit multiple times (again, with plenty of sacrifices).

    It's just that by having the Echo you are simply immune to their tempering, is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Intended or not, it did play like WoW but with a longer GCD from what I can see. Too different from FFXI to be considered FFXI, but far, far more similar to WoW than anything else. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
    Aside from the things that make all MMOs similar (leveling, questing, killing mobs, etc), 1.x was quite different from WoW, in my experience. In fact, WoW is one MMO I would not have used to describe it back then... other than to point out the differences.

    It was very similar to XI in some ways, but very different in others.
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