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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
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    The reason we went/go to each Primal ultimately doesn't matter; because we know what danger a Primal is to the world, we will seek them out and destroy them once we know of their existence and can (at least somewhat) safely fight them (if we're not ambushed).

    Even the Warriors of Darkness are seeking them for the same reason. That should tell you just how dangerous they are. Does't matter how kind they are to their followers or even their enemies, how just their motives are; they sap the land dry of aether, they need to be destroyed.

    As for why each is summoned, you got some wrong.

    Ifrit is just summoned; he has almost ALL the Amal'jaa tempered, and tempered to perpetuate his summoning. Every time they get enough crystals they summon him, for no reason other than his power lust.

    Garuda is similar; she has nearly all Ixal tempered, and they seek to give her power since she has promised them their wings back (which, incidentally, is one she cannot keep. The tempered just do not know that)

    Ramuh was summoned mostly due to the Garleans, as was King Moggle Mog XII, but also due to refugees moving through the area; Moogles and Sylphs scare easily, even when the threat they see isn't as big as they think (the Garleans, yes. The refugees, no) [EDIT: Keep in mind too, we did talk to Ramuh and prove that we are trustworthy after showing him the Crystal of Lightning Frixio gave us. He challenged us to prove it further. He also forbade the Sylphs from summoning him again]

    I'm not actually sure *why* Leviathan was summoned this time; defense of the Spawning Grounds (which the Sahagan took from Limsa in the first place) is plausible, but at the same time the Priest who summoned him was baited by Elidibus, so the real motives become hazy. However, Leviathan just wants to drown everything (tempering and literally with water) so...
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    Kuwagami's Avatar
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    the opening in FFXIV showed the company of heroes that was on the opening of FFXIV : ARR ......

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPG-rIeTYYY
    These are the Warriors of Darkness

    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    The reason we went/go to each Primal ultimately doesn't matter; because we know what danger a Primal is to the world, we will seek them out and destroy them once we know of their existence and can (at least somewhat) safely fight them (if we're not ambushed).
    Definitively, but many wouldn't have ever been summoned if not for those situations. Of course, once they're here, we can't let them be, no matter what the original reason was. That doesn't solve the initial problem though.


    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Ifrit is just summoned; he has almost ALL the Amal'jaa tempered, and tempered to perpetuate his summoning. Every time they get enough crystals they summon him, for no reason other than his power lust.
    iirc, The amal jaa ha very pacific relations with Ul'dah in 1.0. But then something happen and they got driven back further and further into the Desert, which eventually led them to summon their primal once again to conquer back their land. Ifrit's will to temper everyone comes from his unbending will to conquer the world.
    Though I might be wrong and they might just have summoned Ifrit before they got attacked and sent back to the desert.

    we agree on garuda (she's just a psycho wanting more slaves), King Moggle Mog XII and Ramuh

    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I'm not actually sure *why* Leviathan was summoned this time; defense of the Spawning Grounds (which the Sahagan took from Limsa in the first place) is plausible, but at the same time the Priest who summoned him was baited by Elidibus, so the real motives become hazy. However, Leviathan just wants to drown everything (tempering and literally with water) so...
    After the Cataclysm, all of the spawning grounds were destroyed. The sahagins then moved to the Lominsan shores to create new spawning grounds in order to survive, in lands that were already destroyed anyway, waiting to be rebuilt. The Lominsan people not liking the Sahagins (they never were in good terms anyway), they raided the spawning grounds, resulting in the Sahagins summoning their primal to defend themselves.

    ... Then that psycho just decided to drown everyone and everything to prevent any further attack, because if you have no enemy left, you can just leave peacefully, right ? Also, bonus followers, yay.
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    Finally! I've been looking for a full version of this cutscene for months ever since I saw some two webm's showing a bit of Titan forming and crying over the Kobolds.
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    Born to lose, Live to win.

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