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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    Err not to point this out but...... how did the guy have access to 1.0 server with unreleased titan Cs??
    There's a 'project' out there that is a private-server sortof thing going on. The guy who made the video used that as his base, and has done a lot of work in moving forward with understanding the 1.0 architecture. He's got a blog with some updates and stuff on it.
    The Cs doesn't even look like fc1.0 more like some CGI someone made. The lip sync is to perfect for the voice. Which was not the case in ff11 and not all screens was voiced
    Did you forget the opening cutscene/video to 1.0? :P Not everything in 1.0 used the in-game engine for it, lipsyncing was pretty well done for the actual movies too. If you think THAT video is fan-made, you've got very low standards.. :X
    Wasn't done but a few discrepancy

    1) company of Heroes is a 2.0 thing they are just a lore reason why 1.0 players didn't fight titan the real reason was due to the tsunami quake in Japan and thought it was in poor taste to release titan and levi
    CoH was a 1.0 thing. The Tsunami/Quake is indeed why SE didn't release Leviathan/Titan, but they left the cutscene behind in the game's files, which is where Ion found it to show everyone.
    2) 1.0 used in game graphics for cs. That is high res CGI. So no way that a 1.0 Cs.
    Go look at the opening movie for the game, :P
    3) if it was released, that would have been player characters. Player characters were not voiced. And why is only the female Midlander voiced??
    Because it WASN'T RELEASED. Work on it wasn't completed, which is why there's a small bit there when the camera is pointing at bare rock and nothing is going on (that's likely where more things would've gone on), and why there's no music (SE uses placeholder beeps for things, you can hear them sometimes at the beginning of the video. The female Midlander only being voiced is because the cutscene was still a 'Work in Progress', ie: not released.
    4) titans dismemberment sorry the 1.0 graphic where good but not that good. Look at the Cs with merlwyb she shot a guy point blank and no blood spatter the chick hacked titans sum off with blood effects.
    Movie cutscenes are completely different from in-engine cutscenes.
    5)look at the lip movement its spot on to the English voice acting. Sorry but no game I played has game graphics that spot on. That near movie quality 1.0 voiced Cs looked nothing to that quality.
    Movie cutscenes had better lipsyncing, go watch the opening 1.0 video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPG-rIeTYYY

    That's someone home made movie they just downloaded one of the many 1.0 vids and edited in.
    HA. No. No one person can make a better video than the entire team at SE, especially considering that bits and pieces of this unreleased cutscene are in other trailer videos for 1.0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5fC...utu.be&t=1m25s 1:25 into this video, you can see Titan holding up his heart. Ion (the guy who found the CS) didn't travel back in time and put his video into that trailer from 2010.
    If you look up past voids that same miqo'te was in a Cs montage of ff1.0 and it was released yesterday..
    The look of the character in the game has absolutely nothing to do with this video. I found somebody who looks like my current character the other day, does that mean there are two of me? No, it's just somebody else who uses a similar look. You have to go by the channel name of where the video is, or the character name, if you want to try to connect this video to any other.
    Why would he wait 4 years to post it??
    I don't get this part.. he only found this cutscene in the 1.0 files today, so where did you get the 4 years from?

    EDIT: Reworded things a little bit better when I saw your signature xD
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    The 2.0 and 3.0 cutscenes are still so disappointing in comparison to 1.0. It's gotten to the point where all I remember from cutscenes are: "Here's my hand" and [nodding intensifies]
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakaseNyan View Post
    The 2.0 and 3.0 cutscenes are still so disappointing in comparison to 1.0. It's gotten to the point where all I remember from cutscenes are: "Here's my hand" and [nodding intensifies]
    The in-game cutscenes are, yeah :\ The full blown year-long-in-the-making actual CGI cutscenes are a different matter imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    the opening in FFXIV showed the company of heroes that was on the opening of FFXIV : ARR ......

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPG-rIeTYYY
    These are the Warriors of Darkness

    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    The reason we went/go to each Primal ultimately doesn't matter; because we know what danger a Primal is to the world, we will seek them out and destroy them once we know of their existence and can (at least somewhat) safely fight them (if we're not ambushed).
    Definitively, but many wouldn't have ever been summoned if not for those situations. Of course, once they're here, we can't let them be, no matter what the original reason was. That doesn't solve the initial problem though.


    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Ifrit is just summoned; he has almost ALL the Amal'jaa tempered, and tempered to perpetuate his summoning. Every time they get enough crystals they summon him, for no reason other than his power lust.
    iirc, The amal jaa ha very pacific relations with Ul'dah in 1.0. But then something happen and they got driven back further and further into the Desert, which eventually led them to summon their primal once again to conquer back their land. Ifrit's will to temper everyone comes from his unbending will to conquer the world.
    Though I might be wrong and they might just have summoned Ifrit before they got attacked and sent back to the desert.

    we agree on garuda (she's just a psycho wanting more slaves), King Moggle Mog XII and Ramuh

    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I'm not actually sure *why* Leviathan was summoned this time; defense of the Spawning Grounds (which the Sahagan took from Limsa in the first place) is plausible, but at the same time the Priest who summoned him was baited by Elidibus, so the real motives become hazy. However, Leviathan just wants to drown everything (tempering and literally with water) so...
    After the Cataclysm, all of the spawning grounds were destroyed. The sahagins then moved to the Lominsan shores to create new spawning grounds in order to survive, in lands that were already destroyed anyway, waiting to be rebuilt. The Lominsan people not liking the Sahagins (they never were in good terms anyway), they raided the spawning grounds, resulting in the Sahagins summoning their primal to defend themselves.

    ... Then that psycho just decided to drown everyone and everything to prevent any further attack, because if you have no enemy left, you can just leave peacefully, right ? Also, bonus followers, yay.
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    Finally! I've been looking for a full version of this cutscene for months ever since I saw some two webm's showing a bit of Titan forming and crying over the Kobolds.
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    sry yall i played 1.0 on and off till the day they shut down the servers

    I watched tons of CS (4+ times infact due to restarting alot) and yes all in game cs used ingame graphics. I have seen each opening movie fir each city state 4-5 times. I also youtubed ALOT of cs.

    Please do a side by side comparrison of a released 1.0 cs and that. there is huge differeces such as the midlander chick cutting off titans arm. NO 1.0 cs had such effects.

    I also watched past 1.0 stuff on youtube cuz I do miss that version.

    if thay was released, it would have been the player characters, the showing of a high res battle regiment wouldn't exist. and there woulda been no way graphically titans arm woulda been hacked off that violently with blood effect, it was a t rated game that M rated game stuff.

    even 2.0 cs with raughban arm getting cut off yoiu see no blood. eveb with telegi getting cut in 1/2 wasn't as violent. and w/o blood.

    http://www.google.com/url?q=https://...JWwNYadgC_7c5g

    actual 1.0 cs, notice the differences?

    that titan vis is a fake too meny differences between it and a legit ff14 1.0 cs. unfinished or not.

    its nmot hard to remake game graphics

    example WoWs Rogue blind video.


    Ff14 didn't have in game movie like CGI Cs. One of the selling points was having high quality in game Cs.

    My bigger question why are they surfacing now??


    Prior to the disaster in jp, we was suppose to attack titan, not the coh. The coh explain who defeated them lore wise. As a means to explain why wol didn't.

    That has pretty good quality fir something unfinished. And in my experience most unreleased stuff is user made unless it was released by the company

    Kinda funny y'all belive a yt vide to be real but question unedited screenshots.

    Kinda hypocritical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakaseNyan View Post
    The 2.0 and 3.0 cutscenes are still so disappointing in comparison to 1.0. It's gotten to the point where all I remember from cutscenes are: "Here's my hand" and [nodding intensifies]
    hahahahaha nodding intensifies ....but yeah ....

    /nod /nod /nod /smile /hand /nod /nod

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    These are the Warriors of Darkness
    Nop , Warriors of darkness are the "mirror" of Warriors of Light... and WOL represent our "party" . The player as Derplander on the CGI's.

    watch A new beggining again :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h542YbZuwkQ
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    I have to ask, have you played WoW past the first 10 seconds, and if so, can you explain how it's so different to WoW? Watched yet another video and my impression remains the same as it was prior. WoW with a must slower combat system. The market does not need a system like that, people simply aren't interested in a system where it takes that long to use one ability. Most modern MMO players dislike FFXIV due to it's long GCD and quit without reaching endgame because putting it simply, the gameplay is a bore until you reach max, or near max level. You have a handful of abilities and a few OGCD.
    Whoah, salty. Put the shaker down.

    Yes, I played WoW for some time. Got a Warlock up to 80, before saying "meh", and walking away.

    It's cute, though, how you mockingly challenge me on how much I've played WoW, but then readily acknowledge that all you know of 1.0 is from YT videos. Your self-awareness could use some leveling up. Just sayin'.

    I played FFXIV 1.0 for several months, during its release and then later, from around 1.18 up through its shut-down in 1.23. I capped DRG and worked on some other classes/jobs, combat, crafting and gathering. I can tell you definitively, in my experience, it was quite different from WoW, almost across the board, in ways and for reasons you're not going to see by watching YT videos. Like I said, I would not have used WoW to describe 1.x to anyone, except to point out the differences, of which there were many.

    Suffice to say, 2.0's combat is largely derived from 1.x's. Only, 2.0's has moved a bit more to the "streamlined"/mainstream friendly side of things, such as removing the elemental wheel from the equation, for example. So, if one considers 2.0's combat to be different from WoW, then they'd very likely have considered 1.x's to be even moreso.

    Now, if you're going to say "why don't you give me specifics?". I'm going to say "No, that's okay". For me to sit here and think back to 3+ years ago to remember specific examples, simply to answer the poor-faith queries of an anonymous person on the internet, would require far more time than I have, or care to invest. If you're going to say "then how can you remember it being different?", I'm going to say for the same reason I know that the car I own now feels different to drive than the last one I owned some years ago - even if I can't remember specific examples of how or why.

    To belabor the car analogy a little further, trying to discern key differences between MMO combat systems by watching YT videos is about as feasible as trying to discern key differences in how different cars handle by watching people drive. In each case, to have a proper understanding/appreciation of the experience, beyond the superficial, requires you to be in the driver's seat.

    I could go digging around the web and find pages describing/explaining how 1.x's combat worked, with all its nuances, interplay with other roles, etc. But then, you could do the same thing, were you really so curious to find out.

    If you strip away all varying/differing factors, combat in all MMOs ultimately boils down to "click button, do action", outside of auto-attacking. So, yes, if you're just sitting there watching a video of other people playing a game whose combat you're not familiar with, without context, chances are that's what it's going to look like to you. "Oh, so, they're just going up to mobs and attacking.. How is that so different?". Null surprise there, and hardly basis for an argument.

    I'll summarize it like this.. When I think of games that reminded me a lot of WoW when playing them, for various reasons (different among all of them), I'd list FFXIV 2.0, Warhammer Online, Wildstar, or any MMO modeled after that standard themepark model. FFXIV 1.x was not modeled after that style of gameplay, only borrowing elements which are, frankly, common across all MMOs. This is why I do not liken 1.x in any way to WoW.

    If that explanation isn't good enough for you, then I don't know what to tell you. I hope it doesn't disrupt your day fussing over it too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    Nop , Warriors of darkness are the "mirror" of Warriors of Light... and WOL represent our "party" . The player as Derplander on the CGI's.

    watch A new beggining again :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h542YbZuwkQ
    You have nothing to back up this claim.

    All that we know for sure is that Derplander and his 4 friends got sent away, and that the 5 WoD are carbon copies of Derplander & co.

    Moreover, only 1.0 characters can relate to the adventurers in A New Beginning. There is a plot hole for 2.0 characters though concerning that point, as we were NOT part of the cataclysm events, and yet Cid has a flashback involving us when we go to face garuda.

    Even if the CGI derplander & co weren't the WoD, they wouldn't be the Company of Heroes either anyway.
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    We worked very hard in 1.x and given a ton of suggestion, heck... we even gone as far as to present whole game mechanics to rescue 1.x (even at alpha stage)... I still miss most of those suggestions! Its not that they ignored us, but its a bit sad because we had hopes for 2.x when they said they will start anew! There is no excuse to not listen, when you start complete new...

    In 1.0 alpha the forum was full of feedback and very detailed suggestions - the game was rushed but i guess Tanaka thought to add some of them
    (Tanaka had a vision, its not entirely his fault for having bad programmers or other members - dont let him burden all blame alone!)
    In 1.x then we still continued with our suggestions because Yoshi-P taken over - some ideas were implemented (GM reporters, garlean ambush, combat changes, and so on)
    In 2.0 alpha forum i still have seen good detailed suggestions but untill now i do not know why they got rid of most of 1.x mechanics the players liked... (chocobo carawans, hamlet, and so on...)
    In 2.x then we had to see what FFXIV has become and somehow the suggestions stopped... its as if the players given up or just getting bored to be slapped into face once again...
    I understand why they deleted old forums and so, but i really hope they copied some of the good topics because there are suggestion they should consider to improve the game even now with 3.x

    Square Enix should consider to make more polls about "changes" currently it looks a lot like they have lost the connection to their playerbase!
    Lets say they suggest something and then the community discuss about it... it must not even be open topic, heck even a closed topic for a limited group would help this game more than the current state!
    I will not say Yoshi-P is making bad decisions but sometimes i think he is lost in little details. (its now the 3rd relic with just changed colors nomnom would go berserk ^^)

    PS: I hated how they have made the "Circle of Knowing" members to "normal" and even "weak" charakters in 2.x ... If you played 1.x you know that they had something special on them but i like the direction 3.x is going because it seems they one by one are getting their "special" ability - its like a "making of"

    Edit: Whats with the discussion if the video is real or not? Why do you care? The question is if you like that to happen in the story or not, stop destroying that with stupid discussions you cant even prove!
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