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  1. #81
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    Donjo's Avatar
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Wait... it's simpler than actually creating a proper modifier for STR/VIT AP contribution, because we then only have to tweak the outgoing damage and dps checks of every current content raid?

    And how would this affect PvP when tanks walk in with max health and max damage simultaneously? They're already plenty strong. Giving them an extra 15% HP or dps output atop that does not cry balance to my ears.

    ...
    I can see it now. Tanks running around with more Attack Power than proper DPS classes while SE is feverently investigating why nobody is using Tank Stances anymore.
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  2. #82
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    AlexiIvaniskavich's Avatar
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    Hrothgar Grulag
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    Any class should not 'need' to roll on gear from another class to be optimally efficient. If they want us to roll on multiple types of loot they should introduce more than two sets of top tier accessories and armors.
    I would love to have 2 types of tank accessories that I could roll need on. It lets me hit my HP need, and then allows me to stack damage stats. (thus giving you a poor mans pentameld in today's standard).
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  3. #83
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    And how would this affect PvP when tanks walk in with max health and max damage simultaneously?
    I don't see it being a big problem if they scale attack power with vit instead of str, just reduce it to like 80% or whatever they feel is appropriate (or balance it to the current output). It doesn't need to scale 1:1, why would anyone think that it has to?

    I honestly can't wait for them to fix it. Tired of tanking on monk and drg because tanks think their damage is too important to warrant tank stance or enmity combos.
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  4. #84
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    I don't see it being a big problem if they scale attack power with vit instead of str, just reduce it to like 80% or whatever they feel is appropriate (or balance it to the current output). It doesn't need to scale 1:1, why would anyone think that it has to?

    I honestly can't wait for them to fix it. Tired of tanking on monk and drg because tanks think their damage is too important to warrant tank stance or enmity combos.
    I feel bad for you that the tanks you run into lost all the skills they gained between lvl 15 and 50
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  5. #85
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    Dante Venarra
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    I don't see it being a big problem if they scale attack power with vit instead of str, just reduce it to like 80% or whatever they feel is appropriate (or balance it to the current output). It doesn't need to scale 1:1, why would anyone think that it has to?

    I honestly can't wait for them to fix it. Tired of tanking on monk and drg because tanks think their damage is too important to warrant tank stance or enmity combos.
    Changing the tank damage calculations (so that tanks won't have to buy pentamelds) will literally change nothing in regards to tanks min/maxing dps by stance dancing.
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  6. #86
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante_V View Post
    Changing the tank damage calculations (so that tanks won't have to buy pentamelds) will literally change nothing in regards to tanks min/maxing dps by stance dancing.
    It won't change the woefully inept tanking I seem (and many others seem) to always run in to. Nothing wrong with stance dancing but the priority is holding hate then worry about your dps, not the other way around. It just gets me because I've tanked a long time, I do occasionally tank dungeons but mostly run them on dps since I've had ppl complain about tanking mobs in tank stance (I'll switch to dps for bosses but not mobs). Good dps doing their part makes a bigger difference than anything a tank can do (ya know, outside of the main priority of holding hate).

    Min/max is for raiding not expert roulette.
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    Last edited by whiskeybravo; 01-16-2016 at 07:27 AM.

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