More to dungeons :o

[Hanayumi]

Well after finishing up FFX HD, was wondering if they could ever add some decent puzzles to dungeon, something that can be randomized so can't be solved same way each time, although hopefully not as difficult as some pervious FF game's dungeons/temples were, just something challenging or different than purely hacking threw mobs/bosses. >.<

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Unless the puzzles are short, along with the dungeon, people won't bother doing it since it's not speed run friendly.

[stanrir]

i think all of the new dungeons are too plain and simple. I miss the optional paths, the optional mobs. Heck Qarn nm was awesomness cause of the puzzles it had

[seraf]

i think all of the new dungeons are too plain and simple. I miss the optional paths, the optional mobs. Heck Qarn nm was awesomness cause of the puzzles it had

Dungeons like Qarn are fun but only in limited quantities. Maybe release a couple of those per Expansion at most.

[Hanayumi]

Unless the puzzles are short, along with the dungeon, people won't bother doing it since it's not speed run friendly.

Hmm so so, I mean people still do their dungeons from roulette and quests, and if they ever added some kind item for a quest like anima weapon they'll still senseless farm it, whether they enjoy such or not, so yeah, doubt speed running really effects things that much. >.< Anyway a puzzle could easily be added between the sections of a boss, something like what qarn where if you got it right you can just move along but if wrong additional mobs would spawn, ideas like that would be pretty neat just on a grander scale.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

You still create the problem of people wanting to speed run dungeons because X and others who simply want to go through the dungeon normally. Honestly, as much as I love puzzles in RPGs, I would not enjoy doing the same puzzles (or puzzles in general) hundreds of times for my daily grinds.

[Andrea]

I honestly feel if they were to do this they would need to make the puzzles really easy. The FFXIV community already struggles with stuff as it is in dungeons, puzzles would add to this problem if they were difficult.

Also while hard dungeons and puzzles would be fun sadly I feel they've made it clear enough that they don't want anything hard outside of endgame raids and the very occasional trial.

[Heybunny]

I'd love this, I think it'd be great to have something to think about beyond just rotations and mechanics. Sadly, I find that most dungeons feel incredibly monotonous after a few runs through.

As said though, too many people are obsessed with speedrunning everything, so I fear it won't really work beyond the realm of single player games.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I honestly feel if they were to do this they would need to make the puzzles really easy. The FFXIV community already struggles with stuff as it is in dungeons, puzzles would add to this problem if they were difficult.

Also while hard dungeons and puzzles would be fun sadly I feel they've made it clear enough that they don't want anything hard outside of endgame raids and the very occasional trial.

It's the sad truth. The common player simply fails to grasp basic things.

[Zabuza]

I remember SWToR implementing certain puzzle bosses. Specifically the first puzzle boss they had implemented in their EV raid. People made an app to solve the puzzle which everyone used, lol. Static puzzles will be memorized, random puzzles will be circumvented by third party apps.