Stop Hand-Holding me!

[Ava]

I wish "useless" was a good reason for reporting posts. Why are you guys crapping up this person's thread with your childish bickering? Who cares about some dead crappy game and who cares about marketing technicalities. This thread was made to point out how some people feel like they're having their hands held.

Me, personally, I don't feel that way at all. I never read quests for directions anyways I always read them for the lore. I like the markers and wish they would make them even more visible by putting them on the world map instead of journal maps. I think most people feel this way.

[SHJcules]

I hold XIVs soft and moisturized hands with pleasure. I don't miss the old FFXI days, where someone in the party had to have four internet tabs open to lead us around. I do read and enjoy the dialogue, but it still helps to have an exact itinerary.

But like the guy above me mentioned, it would be nice if sometime the NPC had no flippin clue what he needed, or where it was. You just go on your business and stumble on it two weeks later, like "oh shi-"

[JakeRoon]

Sorry I didn't notice, because you seem to have a problem with math....and you're being so vague and elusive it makes your story sound pretty shady.

[Abriael]

Sorry I didn't notice, because you seem to have a problem with math....and you're being so vague and elusive it makes your story sound pretty shady.

I'm being very specific in the information I present about the topic at hand. That should suffice to you.

Who cares about some dead crappy game and who cares about marketing technicalities.

We're just discussing about the validity of using the "dead" (I wouldn't say crappy) game as a guide to improve this aspect of FFXIV. Which is at the very least related to the topic at hand.

[JakeRoon]

Yeah I agree with Abriael....omg.....[head-desk]

[Lahru_Hukurou]

Just because a game is dead or not doesn't mean that you can't use it as a guide. The whole argument about whether you can or not is just silly.

[Abriael]

Just because a game is dead or not doesn't mean that you can't use it as a guide. The whole argument about whether you can or not is just silly.

The problem isn't that the game is dead. The problem is that the game was far from user friendly, and it failed commercially even for that reason.

FFXIV is risking as well, exactly for the same reason (between others), and the vast majority of people are demanding improvements in user-friendlyness. Using a game that wasn't exactly a champion of user-friendly approach as an example to improve a game that has the same flaw isn't exactly the best course of action. IMHO.

[Zenkill]

I think the markers are fantastic, and I hope they keep them. I like games that you do not need to research online before you play. Hence game, it should be enjoyment, not work. And if I wanted more of the same I'd just go back to FFXI.

[Lahru_Hukurou]

My point about using AO as an example was about all the options it had. Yeah, it had a steep learning curve, can't deny that. Just saying that I like that it had a lot of options to chose from. That is was I would like FFXIV to have. Granted, I know not everyone had the same experience that I had when playing AO. Having a lot of options doesn't scare me or keep me from playing a game. It's just my opinion on what I would like in FFXIV. If other people don't feel the same as me, then they should voice there opinions. This is what these forums are for, right? Hope I didn't come off like a smart-a**, because that wasn't my intentions.

[Zenaku]

Coming from FFXI where you had to look up stuff on wiki and i did enjoy that and you had no info how to do anything within the game. You read the quest

"Find ???? At this city"

Your like how would i find this guy? it would take me at least 1+ to find him in any city and look everywhere. it's like how did this person find it? who post it on the wiki lol.

I think the problem is now many ppl don't want to look up info so it does have to be user-friendlyness if not then FFXIV would only have the old school FFXI fanbase and it would take more then 5years for SE to break even. They made all the money back from FFXI within 5years they say it going to take 5years of ppl paying to break even with ffxiv with 2-3mil subs.

If SE want ppl to play FFXIV they need to make the game really easy to understand unlike FFXI but that was back then everyone now is into the wow get everything handed to them. Playing wow ppl get piss when something is hard or not so easy to get most ppl quit Cata because of it i had a lot of real life quit because they just did not want to do all the hard work to get the gear.

To the OP: Coming from FFXI 6years i have to tell you get over it and get use to getting your hand hold like a girl because the overall % of ppl want something easy to understand and the players who does not our very small so sadly i got over it few months back while playing FFXIV forget about it ffxiv going to be easy to understand noting we can do about it.