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  1. #81
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    Who is running the next D&D FF game and how can I get in?
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bead View Post
    Who is running the next D&D FF game and how can I get in?
    RNGesus is directing it. Toriyama is pushing for it to be a FF13 spin off with a lightning vs yuna karaoke face off for the last boss fight judged by the all male boy band "Noctis and his Boyz".
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    Well this idea goes flying right out the window when in regards to the Warrior of light. No matter what job he/she takes up they are always ALWAYS Lawful dumb/ Stupid good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanikk999 View Post
    Well this idea goes flying right out the window when in regards to the Warrior of light. No matter what job he/she takes up they are always ALWAYS Lawful dumb/ Stupid good.
    Alot of your actions are of questionable legality and they focus on whether or not the support of the city states in the face of beast tribes isn't just blatant imperialism, but hey we can't all have Bioware style morality of "would you like to" "Pet this puppy" or "Murder/rape these orphans" either way the story is far more complex than the simplicities of the allignment chart and has no interest in following it.
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  5. #85
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    FoxyAreku's Avatar
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Can you really call any of the jobs evil...? We all do the same missions afterall, lol.

    Dark Knight is the only job I would even say is borderline evil and even that may be pushing it after seeing the lore of it.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanikk999 View Post
    Well this idea goes flying right out the window when in regards to the Warrior of light. No matter what job he/she takes up they are always ALWAYS Lawful dumb/ Stupid good.
    Well, the jobs themselves can't kind an alignment at all if you really want to take it there but to keep in spirit with the idea of the tread; the warrior of light is not the job itself.

    Just because the warrior of light is a nice good guy black mage, doesn't mean that the essence of the class isn't pure destructive force. So much so the entirety of it's class quests is spent essentially fighting against it.

    The summoner forcefully binds spirits to serve it, which I would count as evil as well, no matter what you do with them afterward.
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  7. #87
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    Sikah'to Tahqa
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    I really like the idea of classifying jobs based on their alignment but... "This job has a huge DPs, so it's EVIIIIIIIL" ? Really, Guys ?

    Evil is far more complicated than this, and BLM are not evil, to me... They're chaotic, yes, but they don't really care about the world. That doesn't make them evil, they're Just neutral, chaotic neutral... . I agree with DRK being lawful evil though, And although one could argue That some are chaotic good, but hey, let's say those don't exist and I think That WAR are the closer to Chaotic Evil, but I see NIN as True Neutral or Lawful Neutral, from the point of view of Eorzeans, as NIN care about Othard but help others when it is profitable for them...

    I know, there's no Neutral Evil in my classification, but the thing with the alignment chart is That you can't always fill all the blanks...
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    Last edited by ArcaviusGreyashe; 12-30-2015 at 07:24 PM.

  8. #88
    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bead View Post
    Well, the jobs themselves can't kind an alignment at all if you really want to take it there but to keep in spirit with the idea of the tread; the warrior of light is not the job itself.

    Just because the warrior of light is a nice good guy black mage, doesn't mean that the essence of the class isn't pure destructive force. So much so the entirety of it's class quests is spent essentially fighting against it.

    The summoner forcefully binds spirits to serve it, which I would count as evil as well, no matter what you do with them afterward.
    These points tie together more than I think you realize. The power of the void (A BLM's power source) is incredibly dangerous even to someone in absolute control of it. Anything less than absolute control is as much a danger to one's self as it is to others. Same with the Egis. When you first invoke one you call out the essence of a primal from within you, and it immediately tries to kill you, and should one ever lose control over it after beating it the 1st time then it could presumably finish what it's Source Primal started and kill you. Thus why we use our Archanimic formulas to program it like we do Carbuncles. They are less powerful but far easier and safer to control.

    (We do not use any of the original forms of the Job powers, we just take on what the job crystals tell us to the skill sets we've already learned from our class training)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexz View Post
    My views on job alignment (based on party roles and class description ideologies) The closer to the left indicates lawfulness whereas the closer to the right indicates Chaos. Thoughts?



    For use of Chaos, Evil, Good, and Lawful, read: http://www.easydamus.com/alignment.html

    Reasoning in comments

    EDIT: WHM and PLD flipped, MCH true neutral, BRD possibly Chaotic neutral.
    If dancer was a class what would it be?
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    Ter'vin Valash
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    If dancer was a class what would it be?
    Amazing, obviously.
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    If you're incompetent, you can’t know you’re incompetent. The skills you need to produce a right answer are exactly the skills you need to recognize what a right answer is.
    - David Dunning

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