Job Alignment Chart

[Lambdafish]

— Game Description

Evil? Really?

Tbh, that description doesn't reflect the feeling I got from the DRK questline, and I see that as a more accurate source. That description though... replace Ishgard with Gotham...

[ApolloGenX]

Well - tbh the whm questline wasn't very lawful... in fact it was more about babysitting and druidic cleansing than anything... I felt that quest was more neutral or even chaotic good, since you essentially just do good things and follow what nature tells you to do... and nature can be chaotic. Most conjury quests actually seem to be focused on neutrality and good, imo. All that balance speak- more like druid quests....but then poor little girl went off the deep end breaking rules and almost killed herself...

Wasn't white magic banned because people almost destroyed the world with it, too?

[PArcher]

Well - tbh the whm questline wasn't very lawful... in fact it was more about babysitting and druidic cleansing than anything... I felt that quest was more neutral or even chaotic good, since you essentially just do good things and follow what nature tells you to do... and nature can be chaotic. Most conjury quests actually seem to be focused on neutrality and good, imo. All that balance speak- more like druid quests.

In the case of WHM, we're an exception to the current rule. DRG PLD and NIN WoL also "suffer" from that

[Gamer3427]

since you essentially just do good things and follow what nature tells you to do... and nature can be chaotic.

Lawful doesn't matter if the actual actions of the lawmaker can be considered chaotic, it simply matters about whether or not the person following the laws or orders without argument. If a raving madman were to order someone to do something for nonsensical reasons, the actual order could be chaotic. If the person follows the order though without questioning it or defying it, then that person is Lawful.....

EDIT:

But they don't respect laws or traditions that don't mesh with their personal sense of justice- so can't be lawful. They are an army of one... do gooders, but not bound by laws.

Lawful doesn't have to be following a set of laws defined by a higher power. Any character that follows a set of rules or code, be it legal or personal, is Lawful, because it is a set of rules, (or personal laws if you will), that they follow....

[ApolloGenX]

Lawful doesn't matter if the actual actions of the lawmaker can be considered chaotic, it simply matters about whether or not the person following the laws or orders without argument. If a raving madman were to order someone to do something for nonsensical reasons, the actual order could be chaotic. If the person follows the order though without questioning it or defying it, then that person is Lawful.....

Fair enough. My point was the quests kind of have various flavors. I did like the alignment chart- like I said, wasn't trying to nitpick- just the evil jobs kinda irked me.

[Alexz]

Fair enough. My point was the quests kind of have various flavors. I did like the alignment chart- like I said, wasn't trying to nitpick- just the evil jobs kinda irked me.

I do understand what you mean by the whole evil thing. It certainly doesn't feel right to assign warriors of light to evil; however, within their spectrum of light could survive intentions.

[Gamer3427]

Fair enough. My point was the quests kind of have various flavors. I did like the alignment chart- like I said, wasn't trying to nitpick- just the evil jobs kinda irked me.

Certainly no ill will towards you on my end. I'm simply enjoying the debate over the character alignment system. It's rare that we can have a discussion on these forums that doesn't instantly delve into bitter arguments or hateful comments without anything to add.....

[Alexz]

Certainly no ill will towards you on my end. I'm simply enjoying the debate over the character alignment system. It's rare that we can have a discussion on these forums that doesn't instantly delve into bitter arguments or hateful comments without anything to add.....

I agree. I was surprised with the corrections, but I do agree with many reasonings posted. :--) I appreciate all the conversation and debate

[Alexz]

Lawful doesn't matter if the actual actions of the lawmaker can be considered chaotic, it simply matters about whether or not the person following the laws or orders without argument. If a raving madman were to order someone to do something for nonsensical reasons, the actual order could be chaotic. If the person follows the order though without questioning it or defying it, then that person is Lawful.....

^ This is true. Obeying orders would be lawful.