Job Alignment Chart

[SpookyGhost]

Other than this I would put WAR under Chaotic evil because they are pure wrath, not organised evil

I understand the confusion, but this is untrue. If you do the WAR questline, you'll find that being a Warrior is about controlling your Inner Beast™ and not giving into the anger. Curious Gorge is the example set of what can go wrong if you don't keep it under control, but he's not a representative of what the WoL version of the WAR is. The WoL WAR is the one that Gorge is envious of and aspires to be like, to be able to control the beast. So I'd put WAR under Lawful neutral, PLD under Lawful good, and DRK under Lawful evil.

[Kallera]

I would switch the nin and drk. (Make Nin: LE, DRK: NE)

Ninjas have a code and morality, and hold a dedication to the mission first. Whereas those same laws and obligations can prevent nin from taking action against a authority, a DRK would not be so fettered.

DRKs, are known for pursuing their own brand of justice against even powerful and connected enemies, to do what they see as just, even when honor would frown on it and reputation be lost. Their brand of tanking is more "selfish", boosting their own abilities to survive, rather than assisting a group's abilities.

[ApolloGenX]

Why would ninjas be evil? Seem like traditionalists for hire- LN.

Warriors would be CN, imo. Not bad or good- just enjoy the fight.

Frankly, I am not sure any of the jobs can be considered evil.... there's nothing in the game on the level of the WoW DK quests where you kill children, lol. The game kind of forces you to do good- so everything is kind of Neutral or Good.

[Ashkendor]

Frankly, I am not sure any of the jobs can be considered evil.... there's nothing in the game on the level of the WoW DK quests where you kill children, lol. The game kind of forces you to do good- so everything is kind of Neutral or Good.

Exactly. This game doesn't do evil. Directly from the website OP referenced:

"Evil" implies hurting, oppressing, and killing others. Some evil creatures simply have no compassion for others and kill without qualms if doing so is convenient. Others actively pursue evil, killing for sport or out of duty to some evil deity or master.

A Black Mage tapping into the powers of the Void doesn't inherently make them evil. There's power, and there's how you apply that power. An individual Black Mage could be considered evil if he burned an orphanage, but that hardly reflects on all of them.

I'm also sort of at a loss as to what DPS numbers have to do with whether or not someone can be Chaotic Neutral... o.O

I understand the confusion, but this is untrue. If you do the WAR questline, you'll find that being a Warrior is about controlling your Inner Beast™ and not giving into the anger.

This too. The WoL is what Warriors aspire to be - someone that's completely harnessed their inner beast and uses it to protect.

Losing your shit is a Bad Thing™ and we end up having to beat Curious Gorge down a couple times for it.

[Gamer3427]

Frankly, I am not sure any of the jobs can be considered evil.... there's nothing in the game on the level of the WoW DK quests where you kill children, lol. The game kind of forces you to do good- so everything is kind of Neutral or Good.

Evil isn't necessarily defined by acts of pure destruction towards the innocent. It's more of a "how valuable do they consider life in general" sort of thing. Those who actively seek to kill others, even evil beings, can fall into the category of evil depending on how you define it. Many "lawful good" characters would consider "chaotic good" characters to be "evil" because they were willing to employ violence or break the law to protect others. Really, as with all things in life, defining "good" or "evil" is a matter of perspective. In this list, I'd consider good or evil alignment based on how they compare to each other.....

[Alexz]

Why would ninjas be evil? Seem like traditionalists for hire- LN.

Warriors would be CN, imo. Not bad or good- just enjoy the fight.

Frankly, I am not sure any of the jobs can be considered evil.... there's nothing in the game on the level of the WoW DK quests where you kill children, lol. The game kind of forces you to do good- so everything is kind of Neutral or Good.

Good would be respecting and preserving all forms of life, so I see evil as the opposite. For WAR, enjoying the fight is what makes them on the evil/neutral scale. It's not exactly for the sake of protecting the party rather than for the sport of the fight.
Additionally, a better way to describe Good vs. Evil in terms of Final Fantasy XIV would be Aether vs. Void or Defense Vs. Offence.

[ApolloGenX]

Evil isn't necessarily defined by acts of pure destruction towards the innocent. It's more of a "how valuable do they consider life in general" sort of thing.

I disagree. Lawful good will kill evil creatures out of "duty", not valuing their lives- but possibly righteously their souls.

Evil beings kill, destroy and oppress for the satisfaction it brings - or out of service to an evil master. They might kill something they do value in that service. Everyone will kill for various reasons. It's about why they do it... and for that reason, no job in FFXIV demonstrates a delight in suffering/death or servitude to evil master.

Good does NOT value all life. Good will not hesitate to kill evil. Lawful good might even consider it a duty. Alignments value like alignments. Alignments are not about nice/not nice or right/wrong.

(For the comment below) - That is a description of past events- current characters have not demonstrated evil behaviors. There is certainly nothing inherent about the job that makes it evil- such as pledging to evil or performing evil rituals for power. Oh sure, having the power might end up with people becoming evil... or not... but anyone can be corrupted. Look at Mr Thordan...and I don't think I would consider him evil. even.

[Alexz]

A Black Mage tapping into the powers of the Void doesn't inherently make them evil. There's power, and there's how you apply that power. An individual Black Mage could be considered evil if he burned an orphanage, but that hardly reflects on all of them.

Main reasoning for evil:
“In days long past, there existed an evil clan and arcane art known as black magic—a potent magic of pure destructive force born forth by a sorceress of unparalleled power. Those who learned to wield this instrument of ruin came to be called black mages, out of both fear and respect for their gift. Yet great power served to corrupt the judgment of mortal man, and so he unknowingly set out upon the path of ruin.
Adventurers who take the black will become agents of devastation, capable of annihilating those who oppose them through little more than the force of their will.”
—Game Description

[Lambdafish]

I'd put WAR under Lawful neutral, PLD under Lawful good, and DRK under Lawful evil.

I agree to some extent, and thanks for clarifying. I still think that the fact that WAR has to control their wrath and inner beast still means that they are controlling an element of chaos, in the same way that DRK controls their inner darkness. So I would put them under Chaotic good/neutral, because they control their anger and rage and use it for good. I would also change DRK to chaotic evil due to their nature of controlling and channeling a chaotic power source, and not having any kind of moral code, I also like the fact that this puts them as the polar opposite of PLD.

Frankly, I am not sure any of the jobs can be considered evil....

Play the DRK quests if you havent already... all I will say

[melisande]

Wrong game.