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    WHM: 100% moral and protects others. White magic is powerful, but powerful because it's meant fully to help and maintain order and life

    PLD: Protects others at the expense of himself and doesn't deal much damage (good vs evil). More towards chaotic because tank leader

    SCH: Neutral-chaotic because sch has self-sufficient DPS moves that strays away from healing, but good because of sharlayan respect for life at the risk of being turned into a Tonberry

    AST: New and risky that play into it being chaotic, yet still follow the order of healing. Good because the buffs tend to be for the party and they hardly dps.

    BRD: incapable of being Chaotic neutral because of low bard DPS. Chaotic because they're not archers, chose to risk archery on his own whim for poetry. Good because 1. low dps output and 2. buff/respect for party
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    DRK: controversial. Lawful closer to neutral b/c it is for the good of all, yet go forgotten and can be taken over by vices; they even don't exactly respect the law, but do their best for the good of everyone. Evil because they don't exactly respect others, yet they still protect them.

    NIN: Neutral because they stole, but from the gov't enemies. They obey authority, but only if it helps them. Evil because of high DPS and independence.

    WAR: Neutral closer to chaos because, although they protect as a tank, they are still insane and new + self sufficient. Reckless, but still tanks. Evil because of their advanced DPS and STR-based tanking rather than VIT.

    BLM: They harbour dangerous, devastating power for their own good (evil) and actively use wicked black magic, which does not tend to align with the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexz View Post
    More towards chaotic because tank leader
    Definately not, PLDs are most definately lawful good, everything about them is about law and order, and their oath.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexz View Post
    incapable of being Chaotic neutral because of low bard DPS. Chaotic because they're not archers, chose to risk archery on his own whim for poetry. Good because 1. low dps output and 2. buff/respect for party
    I agree, but not for the reasons you say. Bards are true neutral because all they want is to play music and be guided by the song, they have no agenda.

    Other than this I would put WAR under Chaotic evil because they are pure wrath, not organised evil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Definately not, PLDs are most definately lawful good, everything about them is about law and order, and their oath.



    I agree, but not for the reasons you say. Bards are true neutral because all they want is to play music and be guided by the song, they have no agenda.

    Other than this I would put WAR under Chaotic evil because they are pure wrath, not organised evil
    1. Agreed. I actually should have switched the WHM and PLD positions.

    2. I agree on some parts, but not with being neutral vs Chaotic. I believe they are chaotic because they are free spirited -- they are a new spawn off of archers, and chaotic would be free spirited like a bard. I do agree with the neutral vs good on some parts because they do deal damage and are not focused 100% on the team, but they also don't seem to deal enough damage for that. Instead, they seem to have more buffs than damage output + they're support dps
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    Wouldn't Dark Knight be more along the Chaotic Good side of the Alignment Chart?

    Lawful Evil is usually reserved for those who works within their boundaries to exploit and twist into whatever they find most convenient. See every corrupt noble trope in the history of the planet.

    The origin of Dark Knights in lore stems from a rebel Ishgardian knight who saw past the social dogmas and laws of the city to outright murder a high ranking priest because he was exploiting kids or something. That origin almost completely fits Chaotic Good to a tee with the whole rebellious and lack of concern over rules and laws in order to bring justice (good) on those who are clearly guilty.

    FFXIV Dark Knights are still stalwart protectors, they fight to protect those who are too weak to protect themselves. It's just that a Dark Knight would probably just outright murder the super corrupt evil noble while the Paladin would argue that they should take him into custody and give him a proper trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HorseBoots View Post
    Wouldn't Dark Knight be more along the Chaotic Good side of the Alignment Chart?
    I really did not know much about the dark knight quests -- only up until about 50. I was really iffy about them because they have such a strong inner conflict, such as WAR, and also have kind of conflicting influences. After reading all of the comments, I'll have to agree with them being chaotic, but I believe they are more chaotic neutral-good rather than good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexz View Post
    Snip.
    They really don't explore that aspect of Dark Knight post level 50 as you pretty much "get over it." That being said, the nature of Dark Knight and what it is suppose to represent in the world of Eorzea follows the "Rebel with a cause" attitude of Chaotic Good to a tee. Going off my perspective completing the Dark Knight story and about 2 years~ worth of traditional table top gaming.

    Chaotic Neutral is more reserved for the "Devil may care" kind of person. Chaotic Neutral values himself but not necessarily the values of others. Chaotic Neutral seeks what benefits himself best, without care for those around him. I mean, the website you linked describes it best. Chaotic Neutral is an individualist, which a group of rogue knights who work behind the shadows to protect the downtrodden and weak citizens of Ishgard from Ishgard itself certainly doesn't fit that description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HorseBoots View Post
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    I always found it funny in the storylines that Dark Knight was CG and Rogue was LN leaning LG. Seems funny to me.
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    Well this idea goes flying right out the window when in regards to the Warrior of light. No matter what job he/she takes up they are always ALWAYS Lawful dumb/ Stupid good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanikk999 View Post
    Well this idea goes flying right out the window when in regards to the Warrior of light. No matter what job he/she takes up they are always ALWAYS Lawful dumb/ Stupid good.
    Alot of your actions are of questionable legality and they focus on whether or not the support of the city states in the face of beast tribes isn't just blatant imperialism, but hey we can't all have Bioware style morality of "would you like to" "Pet this puppy" or "Murder/rape these orphans" either way the story is far more complex than the simplicities of the allignment chart and has no interest in following it.
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