Job Alignment Chart

[karateorangutang]

@ OP

WAR (Chaotic Neutral) - I have a hard time fitting evil into this one at all. WAR's are meant to protect, it's a large part of their storyline. They use a beastly nature to get it done though, but that would vite more in the realm of chaotic rather than evil. Only WAR's that can't control the inner beast are dangerous to the point of harming people and the path of a Warrior is control of the inner beast.

WHM (Neutral Good) - They are actually closer to druids than anything. They pull power from nature and use it to primarily heal allies.

PLD (Lawful Neutral) - The path of the Paladin is actually one that to protect royalty. Since this is the primary motive then it would lead them to be more neutral, like a policing force. Even Solkagzyl ( I think thats how you spell it ) isn't really wandering around doing good deeds, he's on a mission to find something and that code is what drives him. Not a sense of helping out the populace.

[KaitlanKela]

I love this.

[Wildsprite]

looking at this I think we need to come up with a new type of chart

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Dark Knight's follow the law? When?

[karateorangutang]

Dark Knight's follow the law? When?

They don't follow the law of a land, they do however follow a code of ethics. That is considered lawful in most RPG's.

[ApolloGenX]

After reading this, I now believe none of the jobs have alignments... only people have them... the jobs are just jobs. Our characters aren't lawful... since they really don't recognize a specific law or code... they certainly have no problem bucking Ishgardian laws and traditions...they just do what Hydalyn says... or what they feel is best...so they are kind of neutral. They aren't even consistent on the "primals are bad" thing once they are friends with someone that turns into one. They always try to do the "right" things- so they are good.

They are neutral good. Jobs don't have alignments. Our characters can also be any job... which again fits with neutral good. (Cause the game forces us to be good)

[karateorangutang]

After reading this, I now believe none of the jobs have alignments... only people have them... the jobs are just jobs. Our characters aren't lawful... since they really don't recognize a specific law or code... they just do what Hydalyn says... or what they feel is best...so they are kind of neutral. They always try to do the "right" things- so they are good.

They are neutral good. Jobs don't have alignments. Our characters can also be any job... which again fits with neutral good. (Cause the game forces us to be good)

Actually your character could be viewed as lawful. You follow a code of ethics and you adhere to allegiances. Lawful doesn't necessitate a geographical or cultural location. It's adhereance to a belief or a set of ethics that excludes others. The WoL does that quite fluently throughout the whole storyline. Defeat of primals for the betterment of the living races. You adhere to the Scions until... you can't.

[ApolloGenX]

Actually your character could be viewed as lawful. You follow a code of ethics and you adhere to allegiances. Lawful doesn't necessitate a geographical or cultural location. It's adhereance to a belief or a set of ethics that excludes others. The WoL does that quite fluently throughout the whole storyline. Defeat of primals for the betterment of the living races. You adhere to the Scions until... you can't.

Yeah... I'm thinking you cooperate with the scions cause it seems like it's a good idea... but then when it seems wrong, you adapt.

I'm not sure of any code of ethics the WoL adheres to...it all seems pretty situational and trying to do the right thing. Rather than decisions being based on rules or some arbitrary ethical constructs.. it's really just relationships and the situational facts. In fact, I would argue the Heavensward storyline highlights this as it puts the WoL against rigid lawfulness and the lessons of how that rigidity can lead good intentions to do bad things.

[karateorangutang]

Yeah... I'm thinking you cooperate with the scions cause it seems like it's a good idea... but then when it seems wrong, you adapt.

I'm not sure of any code of ethics the WoL adheres to...it all seems pretty situational and trying to do the right thing. Rather than decisions being based on rules or some arbitrary ethical constructs.. it's really just relationships and the situational facts.

Innocents are never harmed for the greater good really. At least not as a direct method. Noone is ever betrayed or even lied too. Your character never lies at all. Seems like a code of ethics to me. It's heavily opinion though because your character never speaks. Its the method of thought that really seperates neutrality with lawful, and since we don't get to see that it's really up to the player to decide.

[ApolloGenX]

Innocents are never harmed for the greater good really. At least not as a direct method. Noone is ever betrayed or even lied too. Your character never lies at all. Seems like a code of ethics to me. It's heavily opinion though because your character never speaks. Its the method of thought that really separates neutrality with lawful, and since we don't get to see that it's really up to the player to decide.

You can be honest without being lawful. ..and you don't kill innocents intentionally, because you are good... but a good example is that the dragon deaths are considered sad, imo. You have to kill them for the story, but unlike the dragoon, you don't consider it a cold "duty"... Just necessary to do the "right" thing in this case. I got the impression the WoL wasn't happy or even indifferent about it, but considered it a grim task.