Looking for a bit of feedback for Ast and dps

[Troile]

I wish there was a chat feature for this since i don't feel this needs a whole post related to it. At any rate I'm currently a level 59 AST roughly in the 130s for ilvl. Running dungeons like the vault I'm being told by others that my dps is laughably low (not in rude ways) outside of gravity spam on multiple enemies.

I don't have a way to check my dps of course, however it's a huge mana drain to deal damage in these dungeons especially because I also end up healing pretty constantly. I'm wondering if it's even worth it to attack at all.

Basically using diurnal i start with aspected bene and helios then a second of collective unconscious, then switch to cleric stance. In cleric i apply the two dots then proceed to malefic 2/gravity (i apply card effects etc).

If i resort to gravity i guess im doing decent damage if there are multiple enemies, but i wonder if it isnt better to save the mp for healing.

What is the general consensus for ast? Does every little bit of damage count and I should just make sure to use LA, lightspeed, and ewers to make sure i have enough mp to heal? Or should I only heal unless it's absolutely safe to dps? What do you other Asts generally do?

Just for reference, I dont feel like a dungeon like the vault is especially difficult to heal outside the final boss. However once i get to him the only time i feel i can deal damage is the orb phase.. otherwise I'm full time healing. Is this what you all did at my ilvl here?

[Pomelo]

two dots

Add aero to your mix as well.

[Troile]

i didn't think of aero. Thank you.

[Pomelo]

Everything else your doing seems fine, you might be overhealing by using all 3 of your hots though. Just use a synastry enhanced asp bene and time dilate it, Celestial Opposition provides a stun for you to start gravity spamming, and also extends the hot. If theres like 2 enemies, you may as well dot them both

[Troile]

So, it's a matter of more practice and simply being more efficient with skill usage to avoid wasting time healing?

[VanilleFang]

So, it's a matter of more practice and simply being more efficient with skill usage to avoid wasting time healing?

Yeah, that's what it comes down to. When you become more comfortable with your entire kit the easier everything becomes. Understanding when you can use Cleric stance by gauging how long the tank will be safe with your buffs and HoTs is essential to good dpsing.

[Yhisa]

Yeah, that's what it comes down to. When you become more comfortable with your entire kit the easier everything becomes. Understanding when you can use Cleric stance by gauging how long the tank will be safe with your buffs and HoTs is essential to good dpsing.

It also depends on your group as well .... Like derp DPS standing in something they not mean to stand in, or tank that never uses cooldowns D:

So In all you as a healer is only as good as your group, you could be the beat healer in the world and if DPS stand in crap your kinda forced to heal D:

All I can say is watch this for humor on being a healer https://youtu.be/2DxS7eT_ky4

[Troile]

It also depends on your group as well .... Like derp DPS standing in something they not mean to stand in, or tank that never uses cooldowns D:

So In all you as a healer is only as good as your group, you could be the beat healer in the world and if DPS stand in crap your kinda forced to heal D:

All I can say is watch this for humor on being a healer https://youtu.be/2DxS7eT_ky4

That video clarified everything for me.... thank you, and everyone else as well for the feedback. Feel free to let this post slip into the realm where posts that are no longer needed go. Thanks again.

[Sleigh]

Basically using diurnal i start with aspected bene and helios then a second of collective unconscious, then switch to cleric stance. In cleric i apply the two dots then proceed to malefic 2/gravity (i apply card effects etc).

If i resort to gravity i guess im doing decent damage if there are multiple enemies, but i wonder if it isnt better to save the mp for healing.

What is the general consensus for ast? Does every little bit of damage count and I should just make sure to use LA, lightspeed, and ewers to make sure i have enough mp to heal? Or should I only heal unless it's absolutely safe to dps? What do you other Asts generally do?

Just for reference, I dont feel like a dungeon like the vault is especially difficult to heal outside the final boss. However once i get to him the only time i feel i can deal damage is the orb phase.. otherwise I'm full time healing. Is this what you all did at my ilvl here?

Yeah that's basically right, adding in Aero too. The MP issues get SIGNIFICANTLY eased once you have access to i190-i210 gear, and until then yeah you'll be hurting unless you draw and (waste the RR) use Ewers. You of course do want to DPS when you can. AST DPS is significantly lower than the other healers, both in ways of putting it out and actual output, but it's not chump change. I actually appreciate its high DoT strengths since that synergizes well with phases where you have limited time to DPS then have to get back into heal mode, but yeah you're not beating out anyone regardless.

For Vault's final boss as AST, in i145 gear, it's not hard to DPS a great portion of the fight if people aren't being dumb. Keep up AH when you Holiest of Holies come out, keep up AB, stance down to Essential when needed, otherwise it's pretty easy to DPS. Final phase is when you have to slow it down but there are still good gaps where there's very little damage going out and you can at the least get your 3 DoTs up. It basically comes down to if the tank uses CDs on the cleaves, and if everyone including you and the tank don't get bled by the walking knights, and break your chain in a timely fashion, and don't stand in fire. If those things happen, yeah you gotta go into heal duty for a while.

[VanilleFang]

It also depends on your group as well .... Like derp DPS standing in something they not mean to stand in, or tank that never uses cooldowns D:

So In all you as a healer is only as good as your group, you could be the beat healer in the world and if DPS stand in crap your kinda forced to heal D:

All I can say is watch this for humor on being a healer https://youtu.be/2DxS7eT_ky4

Yeah, I just meant in general though. I had thought about adding in like "things happen though, like the tank will stand in 900 Aoes or something" but I was lazy. Lol