Novice / Beginner / Training Hall -- General Discussion Topic

[Kaurie]

I have fairly low expectations for the training hall. I am guessing it will do no better job of teaching players how to play than Guildhests.

Players need to know they are bad or not performing well before they learn to improve. They need appropriate feedback to show them as such. As the only difficult content in game is team oriented, it's very easy to blame messups on other players and avoid accepting any blame.

In order for the training hall to succeed, it actually needs to be difficult. However, it won't be, and it will simply be another way to reinforce in peoples minds that they are not as bad as they actually are.

The only delusion I see in this thread is the one that the raid community is the exemplar of XIV. I play to the best of my ability, but I don't do the raids while they are in raid rotation because of the raid community. I don't want that kind of aggravation in a game. I don't want to be treated like I'm the disease when I'm trying to learn the content, especially if noone tells you anything about it or expects you to watch videos or read guides. Not everyone can learn the feel of the content by watching or reading how someone else did it. Nor do I like to be talked to in a harsh or derogatory manner. Again, this is a game. If I wanted to be treated like I'm at work, I'd go back to work! I don't get where this attitude stems, either. I know I've only ever treated jerks in the ways I've seen these people treating players they've likely never met before..

This only happens after the raids have been out for awhile and are no longer in a 'progression' type stage. It's when people who are not top tier try to tackle the raids in progression and refuse to admit that they are actually at fault. They easily toss the blame to whoever they can.

If you raid near the early stages of a raid tier, you won't see any of the toxicity that you're suggesting. I'd say most of the raid community is very nice.