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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    I understand your issue but I think it's unrelated to the beginner's hall. The lack of content you are asking for and your personal issues with statics is another topic entirely.

    The beginner's hall should be more about getting people ready for the mid / end-game and making sure they're ready to transition from the casual content to something harder.
    it's directly link, since people had only group of 4 people content until the raid you can't expect them to have build enough network for be part of a static directly... plus most of the statics out are simply not recruiting if you are already a very good player.

    that the whole point, where is the content between faceroll content (hunt, diadem, dungeon) and the raid? no where, it's like suddenly give a car to someone and ask it to drive it without know how it work.
    them major error is to think that focusing on hardcore content will make people magically want to do it, that idiot.
    we see it with alexander normal, a lot of group had a hard time on the A4 for a long moment in df, why? because people don't have the place for train and earn the experience. the beginner all will give them the base but not the experience needed for harder content!
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    Graylle Celestia
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
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    Again, why are you bringing up a lack of mid-core content in this thread? This is not about the lack of mid-core content, it is about the beginner's hall. I already said that of course there needs to be content to aspire towards and that's really all that needs to be said.

    And yea, the beginner hall will teach them the basics but not give them experience with actual content. But, that's certainly a lot better than now when so many people don't even know the basics and don't have a proper path of progression from your face-roll content into anything harder. Right now, you have to go outside of the game to become ready for mid-core content.

    Onto your point about static recruitment -- I play on one of the largest servers and still we have issues with recruitment. The primary reason is that there just isn't an influx of good players or a large enough pool of good players to combat burn-out or incompatibility issues. If there is someone out there worth recruiting, we will find them. We know all the good players on our server because it's not like there are that many of them.

    It's much easier to get experience in content if you go in with solid fundamentals. That's why top-end progression groups clear faster. They know what they need to do, it's just a matter of adapting to the fight mechanics. When you have a DPS with a top-end DPS of 600, no one is going to want to teach them to fight and their experience is going to consist of getting kicked and ridiculed. But, if you have someone that's comfortable pulling 1400 DPS but just needs experience, it's a much smoother teaching experience.
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