Novice / Beginner / Training Hall -- General Discussion Topic

[Brian_]

Why is there no discussion regarding this?

I see a lot of topics complaining about housing, the relic, etc. But, this should be a much more focal issue.

Why? Because it addresses a much more fundamental and important issue this game has -- the general toxicity of DF / PF and the overall attitude of the game's player-base.

If there is anything that SE cannot and should not mess up, this is it. And yet, there is no discussion to let them know how important this is or what we expect from it as a community.

Just imagine a world where this mode succeeds in raising the general aptitude of the player-base. Think about all the horrendous DF experiences you've had with a tank that couldn't tank, a healer that couldn't heal, or a DPS that couldn't DPS. Think about a world where PF clear groups actually cleared and content was much more approachable in general. Think about all the toxicity that could've been avoided if nobody had reason to complain. It'd do much more for the overall gaming experience than a fix to housing, a redone relic quest, a better tier of raiding, or more content.

People mourn the fact that SE said they wouldn't be releasing another primal fight as difficult as Thordan EX. Who can fault them when they have to release content that is appropriately tuned to be accessible? When people want more raid content, ask yourself why SE would invest anything into something experienced by so few? If the player-base was better, SE would have much more design freedom going forward.

This mode should be getting a lot more attention than it currently is. And, my fear is that SE will treat it in a similar way -- as an afterthought.