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    Developers: Why are you "limiting" FFXIV to the PS3 as you limited FF11 to the PS2?

    I would like for any of the developers or staff members to answer US the players this, because I SERIOUSLY think that despite what some people might get upset with me, that the PS3 will limit, and hurt the game in more ways than it will help it. Given the FIRST MAYOR FAILURE FFXIV experienced, I think releasing the game on the PS3 will be a major mistake.

    This is in a very objective way and from a player that was "loyal" to the FF11 PS2 cause and they made the transition to the PC VERSION and experienced a totally different and BETTER GAME once on PC

    First, the game is scheduled to be released on the PS3 on 2013 right? The PS3's "early" years will be over and the game will be released on and "old" console. Now we all know the story on FF1

    Dont deny developers that many of the things that NEVER got implemnted on FF11 were becaue of the limitations on the PS2. You even made a poll recently to see the current system that people use to currently play FF11. A console has its limits and with a PC, you will always have much more rook to improve and do little upgrades as you see fit.

    FF11 gave us re-used zones over and over and over. re-used models over and over. How many times in FF11´s history did we hear the term FROM YOU GUYS AT SE "PS2 limitation this, PS2 limitation that"?

    Limitations in inventory space
    Limitation in graphical improvements
    Limitations in content

    Why are you releasing this game and making the same mistake once again? At this point it might even be smarter to wait for hte NEXT PS4 or the Next Xbox? I am really dissapointed on this decision.

    How long will it be when people start asking for features in the game and we starte hearing from you guys "We would love to do that, but due to PS3 limiations bla bla bla"?

    Are you going to tell us that the PS3 is extremely powerful and that it wont hurt the game? If that is the case let us know?

    Have you found a way to magically increase the ram on the PS3 or a way to make better use of it?

    Are you aware that giving the ADDONS feature is doing the very same thing you FORBID on FF11 with the people that used WINDOWER? .Sstating that it would place people on the PS2 with a disadvantage and hence banning the use or addons in FF11? Well you are now creating that disadvantage yourselves.

    I think you guys are risking tooo much. You should be grateful that FFXIV seems to be saved, and now that you managed that, you go ahead and hurt the game with the PS3.

    Final Fantasy 11 could have been SO MUCH, if it weren't for the binds, shackles and limitations the PS2 brought to it. No room for totally new areas, no room for new races or for a slight graphical improvement?

    I hope you have a plan and are aware that you are RE-Releasing a FAILED game on a console that will be on its last years.

    I hope a dev has the guts to reply and explain this bad decision.

    I see mistake after mistake after mistake.
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    xbox sucks!

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    They are not limiting anything at all. They did mention many times that FFXIV might be ported to other platforms in the future. One thing at a time bro. If the PS3 release proves to be a success we will see it for sure on the 360 and even maybe on the WII U and MAC.
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    You are not getting my point. THE FUTURE of this game will be LIMITED. As years go by and the game grows, the PS3 will start to hold back FFXIV
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhaund View Post
    You are not getting my point. THE FUTURE of this game will be LIMITED. As years go by and the game grows, the PS3 will start to hold back FFXIV
    I agree with this, I wonder what Yoshi-P thinks of it and how they plan to avoid this situation?
    Or, they just plan on releasing new MMORPG every now and then (every 5 to 10 years).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhaund View Post
    You are not getting my point. THE FUTURE of this game will be LIMITED. As years go by and the game grows, the PS3 will start to hold back FFXIV
    I get everything you are saying man.
    I've been feeling many of the same things myself.

    I posted pretty much so in the "future of FFXIV" thread and got bone hammer flamed by all the people who don't have a straight head.

    This IS a serious concern.
    It really is.

    The PS3 is about as graphically capable as a Pc from over half a decade ago.
    Almost no game renders at a higher resolution than 1280x720(Many less than that).
    It may have a decent CPU, but in the long term the amount of RAM it has and the GPU structure it's based on are really limiting factors in a lot of ways.
    From AA capabilities, amount of unique things(Such as texture diversity, unique character models,etc) to be stored in RAM at any given time, texture filtering,amount of polygons being rendered on screen etc.

    And while it is a lot more optimized because it is just meant for running games, and it is much more powerful than the PS2, 5 years down the road it will be limited even more than it is now. PC's on the other hand will not because they are constantly changing and if the specs of an average modern PC were in a console, it would be far more powerful than the PS3.

    Some factor or another will limit the PS3, and then in change hamper other platforms due to "It will be unfair"
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    Last edited by BONKERS; 10-16-2011 at 04:41 PM.
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    Whose to say it can't be ported over to the PS4 in the future and be expanded on?
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    Except that's wrong.

    FFXI always had the ability to have up to 255 inventory slots, level up to 255, up to 255 zones (about 220 were used in the end), etc.

    PS2 limitations was Tanaka's excuse to make HIS game HIS way, against what the players wanted. He tried it again here with XIV, but thank the Twelve they fired him early on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alicia_WM View Post
    Except that's wrong.

    FFXI always had the ability to have up to 255 inventory slots, level up to 255, up to 255 zones (about 220 were used in the end), etc.

    PS2 limitations was Tanaka's excuse to make HIS game HIS way, against what the players wanted. He tried it again here with XIV, but thank the Twelve they fired him early on.
    dont get me wrong, FFXI was probably my favorite MMO overall from all the ones I have tried/played. but that's what probably made me cancel my CE Pre-Order 1 week before the game went live. He was NOT listening to player feedback throughout all the betas, he was just doing what he wanted. I mean I got the game for dirt cheap and played a little during this f2p period, but once it goes to billing I am not too sure yet if I am going to subscribe to it. But in conclusion I like what Yoshi has been doing(actually listening to players) but it might be too late for me. But we shall see how I feel in the future with more updates.
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    Last edited by DeadlySwordz; 10-17-2011 at 02:50 AM.

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    First mayor Failure of FFXIVille was a pretty cool guy.
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