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    For those who are overly outraged that it has to be the "homeowner" that steps foot in the house to reset the demo-counter, it's another real-world representation that people just have to deal with.

    In the dreaded "real world", if the governing body of some area decides that "hey, this guy has abandoned his house" or "he's so far overdue on his taxes and isn't responding to our notices, let's seize his property", they won't halt the process just because there are people labeled "tenants" occupying said property. Their biggest concern is maximum utilization of available resources and the all-mighty bottom line of being in the black instead of red. Real-world tenants have no legal "two cents" to throw into the argument, and that's how SE is handling this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocrypher View Post
    For those who are overly outraged that it has to be the "homeowner" that steps foot in the house to reset the demo-counter, it's another real-world representation that people just have to deal with.

    In the dreaded "real world", if the governing body of some area decides that "hey, this guy has abandoned his house" or "he's so far overdue on his taxes and isn't responding to our notices, let's seize his property", they won't halt the process just because there are people labeled "tenants" occupying said property. Their biggest concern is maximum utilization of available resources and the all-mighty bottom line of being in the black instead of red. Real-world tenants have no legal "two cents" to throw into the argument, and that's how SE is handling this.
    While I don't own a personal house there is a bit of an issue with that example. Yes if a person refuses to pay taxes, house payments, etc a home can be taken and having your buddy stop by is not going to halt the process. However a person paying their mortgage and taxes could spend two years abroad and would come back to a house that is still their own so long as they were maintaining their financial obligations. In the current situation with FFXIV, I could get deployed or need to travel for three months and even though I am willingly paying my 'mortgage' (my subscription) that entire time, my home will still be destroyed. I agree there were homes that needed to be reclaimed but I also agree it doesn't seem right that its based solely on you stepping foot in the home rather than on subscription status. I really feel it should have been something like, if you are unsubscribed from the game for more than 30 days, the timer of 45 days kicks in for you to resubscribe and go visit your house.

    Likely I may have been in the same boat as other personal house owners if an emergency arose but a friend and I bought ours together as an FC house pre-release of personal housing. Though only two of us are active, if we had to take a break we could get a few people to check on it for us to keep it from being demolished. I don't see why those who share personal housing should not be allowed the same convenience. Especially if (I don't know wholly how house sharing works) those who share the house can build personal rooms within it and therefore share in the investment and the loss of that investment that will come when it is destroyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocrypher View Post
    For those who are overly outraged that it has to be the "homeowner" that steps foot in the house to reset the demo-counter, it's another real-world representation that people just have to deal with.

    In the dreaded "real world", if the governing body of some area decides that "hey, this guy has abandoned his house" or "he's so far overdue on his taxes and isn't responding to our notices, let's seize his property", they won't halt the process just because there are people labeled "tenants" occupying said property. Their biggest concern is maximum utilization of available resources and the all-mighty bottom line of being in the black instead of red. Real-world tenants have no legal "two cents" to throw into the argument, and that's how SE is handling this.
    You probably scanned trough my post.

    In real world i have 2 vacations properties. I pay the maintenance, the house tax, the community tax and whatever needs to be payed. And I visit it for about 1 month and a half each year because is when i'm on vacation. Nobody went to get my house. Its not abandoned its just not being used for its purpose. But Listen! I'm paying it its is as I would be there living cause you and other people don't need to know if I'm actually sleeping.

    Now on FFXIV is not a real life scenario or close to it. I pay for the sub. I go on vacations and i still have to deal with this crap system. My sub should be paying that tax. So your point here is invalid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooga View Post
    Now on FFXIV is not a real life scenario or close to it. I pay for the sub. I go on vacations and i still have to deal with this crap system. My sub should be paying that tax. So your point here is invalid.
    There no house tax but maybe there should be, cause everyone pays the same sub but not everyone gets to have a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    There no house tax but maybe there should be, cause everyone pays the same sub but not everyone gets to have a house.
    Actually there are several "taxes" we all pay in real cash: our monthly sub fee, additional retainers because SE purposefully set our inventory space so low, and items they sell on the mog station.

    SE makes enough money off of this game to afford to buy the infrastructure needed to have more wards, they simply choose not to. You should direct your anger at them, because they are not providing the in game resources that you are paying for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahd_Monkey View Post
    Actually there are several "taxes" we all pay in real cash: our monthly sub fee, additional retainers because SE purposefully set our inventory space so low, and items they sell on the mog station.

    SE makes enough money off of this game to afford to buy the infrastructure needed to have more wards, they simply choose not to. You should direct your anger at them, because they are not providing the in game resources that you are paying for.
    Yes I think the housing system is screwed up and SE needs to fix it, but people need to stop using that that they pay a sub well so does everyone else so people need to come up with better reason why the 45 days shouldn't exist and the retainer thing that a whole different issue that could take up a thread on it own.
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