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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    I agree with you on the houses per account limit. I wanted to smack some people when I saw the PF's up reselling the few plots that did open up. Dunno, I think the reclamation was definitely needed though. Too many houses have been sitting unused for ages.
    But it doesn't work for those kind a people. When I play I go to my house and stuff. But there is people with 5 houses and they don't even go there and the reason they have that is because they have money and time. So this system doesn't bother them because they get email and they just teleport there. In other cases people with life not on 24/7 this system is stupid and disadvantageous...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    If you're in hospital/unwell for 45 days straight and not able to log onto an online game then I think your issues are far, far greater then a house being demolished.
    Yes, but how awful would it be to be in the hospital/be unwell for 45 days straight, get better, finally log back into your favorite game and your house is gone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    At the end of the day housing reclamation is a good thing that was sorely needed - and here's the kicker: It was a hotly requested feature on the forums.
    What has been hotly requested is a fix to the severe lack of housing in this game. Housing reclamation has not provided that fix. It is, at best, a band-aid on a gaping wound.
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    It's horrible even for people who want to go for a long vacation. Presuming the demographic of the game is 18+, most people have the access to vacation and may face situations of prolonged inactivity.

    I'd understand if it was 45 days of no subscription money as you no longer pay for their services but 45 days activity doesn't make sense especially when you still pay for the game.
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    OP you were able to keep the house, am I right? then the system worked as intended, you were an inactive player for 35 days, and SE sent you a warning so you could kept it, it is a pain if you are away? yes, but you had 10 days to figure something out.

    Reclamation was really needed, and 45 days is a good time to decide if you want to keep a house or not, tenants will not be able ever to reset the timer, as personal housing is a luxury for players, but a necessity for FCs,and the more houses are in the market, the better.

    Quote Originally Posted by MihaelB View Post
    It's horrible even for people who want to go for a long vacation. Presuming the demographic of the game is 18+, most people have the access to vacation and may face situations of prolonged inactivity.
    FFXIV can run in almost any laptop, I use one when I need to go out of town ,and 15-20 frames per second is enough to enter your house, chat, do gathering, crafting and even your dailies.

    I do agree with you, more housing is really needed, especially in high populated servers, and houses need to be limited per account, per server, as people like this are even allowed to have 5 houses,

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...elfish_but_im/

    *and yes, I have a private house
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    Last edited by MilaDazol; 12-28-2015 at 09:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilaDazol View Post
    OP you were able to keep the house, am I right? then the system worked as intended, you were an inactive player for 35 days, and SE sent you a warning so you could kept it, it is a pain if you are away? yes, but you had 10 days to figure something out.
    You have the right of it. At the end of the day, you fixed the problem, and the reclamation system was designed with the intent on helping the housing market. Despite the number of scalpings of property over christmas and the following days, it has done its job, by freeing up plots on servers that needed them, ours especially. At the end of the day, you did what you needed to keep your house, and in my eyes the system works.

    Quote Originally Posted by MihaelB View Post
    I'd understand if it was 45 days of no subscription money as you no longer pay for their services but 45 days activity doesn't make sense especially when you still pay for the game.
    SE isn't dumb, they can see log ins, and I'm sure can easily see the number of people who are subbed vs un-subbed when they came up with this rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyghtmarerobu View Post
    SE isn't dumb, they can see log ins, and I'm sure can easily see the number of people who are subbed vs un-subbed when they came up with this rule.
    Yea pretty sure SE can see logins but I think it more about if a person actually cares to visit their house. There have been people that admitted before this reclaim system came into play they bought a house and never visited it. The system designed to get players more active with houses or least visit it once in awhile (that being least once every 45 days). Otherwise it will be reclaimed and another person can use/visit it and if they don't same thing will happen to them.
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    I'd understand if it was 45 days of no subscription money as you no longer pay for their services but 45 days activity doesn't make sense especially when you still pay for the game.[/QUOTE]

    YES! this is what i mean! It's fuckin stupid.... It can happen any time, for me money is not the issue is whether I come back and I have what is mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by MilaDazol View Post
    OP you were able to keep the house, am I right? then the system worked as intended, you were an inactive player for 35 days, and SE sent you a warning so you could kept it, it is a pain if you are away? yes, but you had 10 days to figure something out.

    Reclamation was really needed, and 45 days is a good time to decide if you want to keep a house or not, tenants will not be able ever to reset the timer, as personal housing is a luxury for players, but a necessity for FCs,and the more houses are in the market, the better.

    FFXIV can run in almost any laptop, I use one when I need to go out of town ,and 15-20 frames per second is enough to enter your house, chat, do gathering, crafting and even your dailies.

    I do agree with you, more housing is really needed, especially in high populated servers, and houses need to be limited per account, per server, as people like this are even allowed to have 5 houses,

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...elfish_but_im/

    *and yes, I have a private house
    Pretty sure you don't have a life, maybe donnu. I had to waste 1 day of my vacation to fix something so utterly stupid.

    I had my token with me! But if I didn't had it. My house would have been done for... See the problem?

    When I go to work I go to work I don't have time to play or login.
    And when I'm in vacations with family I don't bring anything because I tend to stay with my family and not ingame.

    It's doing it purpose but its not fixing what is intended to be fixed. FIRST STEP SHOULD HAVE BEEN! and simply limit 1 house per account.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nyghtmarerobu View Post
    You have the right of it. At the end of the day, you fixed the problem, and the reclamation system was designed with the intent on helping the housing market. Despite the number of scalpings of property over christmas and the following days, it has done its job, by freeing up plots on servers that needed them, ours especially. At the end of the day, you did what you needed to keep your house, and in my eyes the system works.



    SE isn't dumb, they can see log ins, and I'm sure can easily see the number of people who are subbed vs un-subbed when they came up with this rule.
    I fix the problem by wasting a day installing the game on a computer that isn't mine, further more is that I had my token if I didn't I would have lost my token...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Yea pretty sure SE can see logins but I think it more about if a person actually cares to visit their house. There have been people that admitted before this reclaim system came into play they bought a house and never visited it. The system designed to get players more active with houses or least visit it once in awhile (that being least once every 45 days). Otherwise it will be reclaimed and another person can use/visit it and if they don't same thing will happen to them.
    The thing is when I play I visit my house... When I play I play more than 8 hours a day. But when I work I can't play! I can't log and sometimes I'm out for more than 45 days....

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    People are not still getting this:

    There is game life and real life.

    I'm paying for a service I should have that service saved.
    Think it like a website. You buy a website if you keep paying it it stays there if not it gets demolished! THIS is what should be done with housing.

    If I have a Life that makes me take a inactivity of 45 days and if I want to keep my stuff when I come back to play! there should be away to do it.

    This system will work for 3 or 4 houses max per server. Maybe! While if they limited the house per account there would be at least 50% of the houses free. I know at least 3 people that have 6 houses in excalibur, excluding the FC mansion.

    This is the issue! This is what should be fixed. This should have been the first step... Now I will have to BREAK the TERMS AND CONDITIONS! If I want my house to survive.

    So yeah Devs, Square Enix, tell me what would be the solution?

    Actually! It would be even better if you could pay the house like we pay the extra retainers it would just get rid of all this fuckin nonsense and you would have money to add more wards and whatever.
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    Perhaps a shared house should default to the first person the owner shared with, instead of being auto-demolished after 45 days. While I'm sure there are downsides to this system, there are upsides too like encouraging house sharing.
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    People using their job as a reason why they can't log on in the 45 day period, so I assume they are traveling which I pretty sure they stop at some time and not working/traveling 24/7. They can't bring a laptop with them which today world there plenty of places the provide free internet access points. Yes I have heard about how hotel internet can be crappy but could least log on long enough enter house and log back out. Unless you on like a submarine in middle of the ocean or something, which my brother actually played with someone in that situation and then that person just made arrangements and didn't seemed to be bothered by timers like this.
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    I think it would be really nice if shared housing allowed for all tenants to count towards its activity.

    Is that not how it works with Free Company Housing?

    My friends and I bought a personal house together and it is under my name. I'm very active, but you never know when life happens. They paid into the house just like me (though I was the one camping the plot) and I think they should count towards its upkeep as well since they are registered as owners as well. They have all the same permissions as me.

    It's not just my house--it's theirs too. Why do only I count? It has their furniture, their gil went into it, and they use it too. Their use should count.
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