Materia Changes in 3.2:

**Felis** · 12-29-2015 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by Sylve

I'd be perfectly OK with Crafting being required for my Relic, if Crafters weren't trying to charge me 10 million or more for the materials i need.

current prices or remembered "first days" prices? On Ragnarok the prices for those are currently around 300k each.

**UBERHAXED** · 12-28-2015 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by l---------------l

I agree with the OP, but, I agree only for one reason that is totally personal and many people will criticalize so, I don't care admitting it....

I HATE CRAFTERS. It's one of the worse things of the game, they require you a time not everyone can afford to, they are not enjoyable or fun, and, what's worse, they are making them useful... At the beginning of 2.1 to 2.2, (thanks god) they were pretty useless. But now you need them for everything, you need them for your relic, you need them for optimal raiding foods and potions, you WILL NEED them for materia, and now WILL NEED them for i210 HQ pentamelded gear for next raid tier (3.2 patchnotes) nice.... Really...

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**Ashkendor** · 12-28-2015 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by l---------------l

I agree with the OP, but, I agree only for one reason that is totally personal and many people will criticalize so, I don't care admitting it....

I HATE CRAFTERS. It's one of the worse things of the game, they require you a time not everyone can afford to, they are not enjoyable or fun, and, what's worse, they are making them useful... At the beginning of 2.1 to 2.2, (thanks god) they were pretty useless. But now you need them for everything, you need them for your relic, you need them for optimal raiding foods and potions, you WILL NEED them for materia, and now WILL NEED them for i210 HQ pentamelded gear for next raid tier (3.2 patchnotes) nice.... Really...

Awww, poor baby.

**silentwindfr** · 12-28-2015 08:03 PM

we will see, but if they don't change the way to get materia, not everyone want to spend hours to kill stuff for break stuff and get random materia of elemental resistance, nor give them a better us it will lead us nowhere.

soo far it's part of the change they haven't give us enough information for really know where it will lead us.

**Felis** · 12-28-2015 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by silentwindfr

we will see, but if they don't change the way to get materia, not everyone want to spend hours to kill stuff for break stuff and get random materia of elemental resistance, nor give them a better us it will lead us nowhere.

**Granyala** · 12-28-2015 08:54 PM

Only thing I want is that they either rework or disable the Overmelding for combat gear.

Working for materia and additional stats is ok. Dumping countless hours/gil into some bullshit RNG is not.

Originally Posted by Felis

I do NOT want to be forced into mindless zerg content, no matter how much SE wants me to participate.
Thank you very much.

If they make Diadem actually interesting and fun we can talk about doing it.
Mindlessly grinding mobs? Bleh.

**Judah_Brandt** · 12-28-2015 09:03 PM

TL;DR - "I don't want to have to do anything to get stuff. Gimme it."

You don't want to Spiritbond. Won't go in the Diadem to get the spoils for Materia. Won't craft or gather anything in an attempt to make a significant amount of Gil. Won't even send your retainers out on Ventures and obtain it that way because you're too lazy to get the coins to pay them. You don't belong to an FC with an Airship that could easily be sent on the cheap to retrieve Materia.

Of all the options available to you, you would rather that it's just handed to you? Wait, I know. Let's just make it so there are no items any more and everyone just does the same damage and everything is only for glamour. And everything should be bought with hugs, too. This may sound mean, but you're basically asking them to eliminate a system that rewards a player for putting in effort so you don't have to. You aren't entitled to things because other people have them.

Stop it.

**Granyala** · 12-28-2015 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt

You don't want to Spiritbond. Won't go in the Diadem to get the spoils for Materia.

Won't craft or gather anything in an attempt to make a significant amount of Gil. Won't even send your retainers out on Ventures and obtain it that way because you're too lazy to get the coins to pay them. You don't belong to an FC with an Airship that could easily be sent on the cheap to retrieve Materia.

1) absolutely correct. I do NOT want to be forced into shitty grind content that is so mundane and boring that it should be done via automated bots.
I don't know about you but I play a game to be ENTERTAINED not bored to the point that my skull implodes if I don't watch a movie next to it.

2) Unable to assess right now. We would need to wait for 3.2 to hit and for the prices to find equilibrium in order to gauge how feasible it is to just buy the materia of the MB.

Originally Posted by Zojha

It's easy to develop an irrational aversion to crafting (and crafters) under these circumstances. Can't blame anyone here.

Actually you can.

Crafting is fun system/ability wise.
It's just the layers and layers and more layers of stupid grind sprinkled with RNG that drag stuff out to the death and scare many players away.

Imho sad, because this game has the coolest crafting system I've ever encountered.

So blame the one that deserves it: SE.

**silentwindfr** · 12-28-2015 09:09 PM

you have a right middle, spiritbonding can be quite long if you don't use the right level of content aimed for the item and without potion or item for speed it.
diadem is a mindless zergfest it's ok if you do something else like talking with someone or look a movie next to it.... but not that good as content.
personally i use my airship and gather tons of materia (we are a very small fc with 3 airship ^^) then get the materia not that hard, but i must point out that gather materia is a chores more than fun!

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