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    Materia Changes in 3.2:

    Materia changes - From Patch 3.2 equipment purchased with tomestones will include materia slots.

    So, Will Materia be dropping from Dungeons so we can sell/trade them? One of the issues i'm having with this is there is no way for someone who does dungeons to make money.

    People are wanting 300-500k for one materia item. I only have 200k gil to my name. (Level 60.) right now.

    Unless there another way for combat players to make a large chunk of money quickly like crafters I see this turning people away, making people quit the game. I dislike crafted armor because of how expensive it is and I hate Materia's RNG.

    RNG is what turned me away from Archeage.

    I actually love the gem systems from other games, but in this game Materia is so rare that its just not a fun system. In other games gems are very common.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 12-28-2015 at 09:04 AM.

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    *Cough* Diadem *Cough*
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    Quote Originally Posted by RainDurell View Post
    *Cough* Diadem *Cough*
    Diadem is old gear, which is probably getting replaced by all the new gear. Not an issue or relevant to this topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Honestly if they don't make a way for materia to be easily attainable in 3.2 (20k each I guess?), I'm not going to be using it on my armour. As much as I want to output maximum DPS (even though the "hardest" content I do is EX primals), I'm not willing to spend 1 million+ per piece, it takes me a month just to make a million casually. There's no chance I'd be able to save that much and leave gil for other expenses unless I grind The Diadem, which I'm definitely not interested in. On the plus side, overmelding isn't allowed.
    I'm just worried this game will turn into.

    1. To raid you need to buy from Gil Sellers or be rich or lucky.
    2. To do anything you need a certain gear type which makes it harder to get new people into raiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Diadem is old gear, which is probably getting replaced by all the new gear. Not an issue or relevant to this topic.
    Uh, I think you're missing his point, because it's extremely relevant to this topic.

    You can trade in Diadem spoils for tier V materia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Diadem is old gear, which is probably getting replaced by all the new gear. Not an issue or relevant to this topic.
    cough*Brass Sky Pirate Spoil Vendor*cough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Diadem is old gear, which is probably getting replaced by all the new gear. Not an issue or relevant to this topic.



    I'm just worried this game will turn into.

    1. To raid you need to buy from Gil Sellers or be rich or lucky.
    2. To do anything you need a certain gear type which makes it harder to get new people into raiding.
    I don't think you understand how diadem works. Why don't you try playing the game before complaining about how hard it is to get materia when in reality, the addition of airships (and diadem) makes materia (figuratively) fall from the sky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post


    I'm just worried this game will turn into.

    1. To raid you need to buy from Gil Sellers or be rich or lucky.
    2. To do anything you need a certain gear type which makes it harder to get new people into raiding.
    That didn't happen with WoW's gemming and enchanting systems, but gold was incredibly easy to make and didn't require a large time investment. I just leveled my mining class in 2 days mining the exact route for over and over, and then used that same route to sell the ore and made more than enough gil to afford gems for the next entire expansion cycle that way, kinda getting offtopic here though. An easy solution would be to add materia for Esoteric so you're making materia while just doing your daily roulettes to either sell or use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I'm just worried this game will turn into.

    1. To raid you need to buy from Gil Sellers or be rich or lucky.
    2. To do anything you need a certain gear type which makes it harder to get new people into raiding.
    1. As a person who got all Savage Aim/Might IV for their Relic, why they hell would it turn people to do any of those things? Heck until HW that was the norm. There would be spiritbind parties like there were back then. If you resort to gil buying you should have your account ban hammered so hard.

    2. That's how most MMOs work? Gear is a relevant feature of the progression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    1. As a person who got all Savage Aim/Might IV for their Relic, why they hell would it turn people to do any of those things? Heck until HW that was the norm. There would be spiritbind parties like there were back then. If you resort to gil buying you should have your account ban hammered so hard.

    2. That's how most MMOs work? Gear is a relevant feature of the progression.
    1) Yep. Spiritbond parties will be a big thing once people find the most effective way to do it.

    2) Not even that, only the top-tier groups will be big on perfect stats and all. Mid and low tier groups won't care much, because those tiny stats from melds won't matter at all (no matter what they think. If you don't have the skill and knowledge to use your gear properly, you could be i210 and still do less damage than someone in lv50 gear). Unless you're looking for a top-tier group, anyone who cares a ton about tiny bits of stats is probably not a group you want to be in anyway. Plenty of groups out there that don't care, especially if they're newer as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Diadem is old gear, which is probably getting replaced by all the new gear. Not an issue or relevant to this topic.
    Diadem have an increased spiritbind rate. So put on crafted ilevel 160+ gear and jump into the action.
    And roll on every gear that drop, exchange them for tokens and buy materias with the diadem tokens.
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    Last edited by Felis; 12-28-2015 at 06:22 PM.

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